Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

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Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby Wsn21 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:21 pm

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Give: snead OR martavis

Get: mariota OR russ wilson, + decker

I think im a contender this year, this sacrifices some of my depth and both these wr could still grow in value, but upgrading another starting position would give me a pretty stacked team, and the point is to win...

Do i trade? Who do i trade away, who do i take?

I like snead and martavis both for their upside, i like mariota more because of age, but coming off an injury...
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Wr: Mclaurin/ Devonta Smith/ Toney/ Bryan Edwards/ M Callaway/ Slayton
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby Cherokee » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:29 pm

You are fine where youre at. Rivers should finish ahead of Mariota and right there with Wilson. Bortles isnt great in real football but fine in a pinch. Keep the depth which is solid and has huge upside. Id wait and draft an 18 QB
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby Goddard » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:13 pm

I'd so either WR for either QB fairly easily.

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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby Favrezilla » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:26 pm

Goddard wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:13 pm I'd so either WR for either QB fairly easily.
Yeah I'd easily give up one of those WRs for either of those qbs in almost any format
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (13th year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave

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RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods

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RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby jcc6fd » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:30 pm

Give Snead for Russ Wilson yesterday
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QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby moishetreats » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:43 am

Snead for Wilson + Decker easily.

Small starting line-ups makes the back-end of the roster depth less valuable.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby skip » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:50 am

I'd trade Martavis faster than I could sneeze to get that kind of quality QB even if I didn't need one.
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby M-Dub » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:16 pm

Any of those trades is a win. And considering you're getting Decker back, you're not even really sacrificing depth, just youth.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

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RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby albedo1986 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:20 pm

Agreed with above - I think Wilson is in for a big year, and Decker will likely be fine for 1-2 years (but likely TD dependent). Bryant could literally flop the second he whiffs some kombucha haha

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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:24 pm

M-Dub wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:16 pm Any of those trades is a win. And considering you're getting Decker back, you're not even really sacrificing depth, just youth.
Agreed, and was going to make the same point about getting Decker back. I like both Wilson and Mariota, so take whichever you prefer and make the deal.

I'm not worried about either Wilson/Mariota long-term, but I can't say the same for Bortles. He's on shaky ground at this point in his career.
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RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

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RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby UsualSuspects » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:46 pm

Martavius for Mariota and Decker- easy.
If your starter goes down are you really confident in Bortles to carry the load?
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TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
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2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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WR- Tyreek, DK Metcalf, DaVante Adams, DHop, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Sutton, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby HughHoney » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:24 pm

I'd make one of these deals. I'd deal Bryant before Snead because of the risk.

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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby smallxl » Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:43 pm

jcc6fd wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:30 pm Give Snead for Russ Wilson yesterday
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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby iceman68 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:21 pm

I'd easily do that trade. Trade a depth WR for a young starting QB + Decker.
12 Team, 24 man roster, 4 reserve slots, 1.0 ppr, 0.3 points per carry
1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 2-FLEX

QB: T Tagovailoa, J Dobbs
RB: A Kamara, D Swift, J Jacobs, K Hunt, E Elliott, L Murray, C Patterson, J Wilson, K Drake, D Henderson, C Reynolds, N Chubb
WR: T Hill, M Evans, M Thomas, D. Hopkins, A Robinson, J Bobo, N Agholor, M Hardman
TE: M Andrews, D Njoku, C Otton

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Re: Sacrifice depth to upgrade starting qb?

Postby ttw9 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:26 pm

I like the QB side as well. Decker could have a solid few years in Tennessee
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10 team league full PPR. 6PT Passing Touchdown/3PT Bonus for over 300yd passing/100 yd rush/rec
Start QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/3Flex

QB: Russ Wilson, Cousins
RB: Kamara, Mixon, Aaron Jones, Ekelar, Lat Murray, Ito Smith, Yeldon, Samuels, Rex Burkhead
WR: Juju, Robert Woods, Landry, Demaryius Thomas, Larry Fitz, Chris Godwin, Tre'Quan Smith, Keke Coutee, Josh Reynolds
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Mark Andrews

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QB: Watson, Rivers, Stafford
RB: Guice, Cohen, Chubb, Collins, Derek Henry, Royce Freeman, Ito Smith, Josh Adams
WR: OBJ, Golladay, Funchess, Landry, Corey Davis, Amari Cooper, Allen Robinson, Chris Godwin, Tre'Quan Smith, Josh Malone
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