Major QB trade

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Major QB trade

Postby theviper » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:18 am

12 team, PPR (TE-premium), IDP Dynasty league; roster requirements: 2QB, 3RB, 4WR, 2TE, 4DB, 3DL, 4LB.

I was offered Brady, TY Hilton, M Bennett for my Luck, Funchess, and Cunningham.

My team:

Rodgers, Luck, Palmer
Montgomery, Ware, Sims, R Kelley, Dixon, J Williams (GB & Buf), Cohen, Gallman, A Jones
Baldwin, Hopkins, Bryant, Ty Williams, Matthews, Wallace, Sanu, Funchess, T Taylor
Rudolph, Doyle, C Gillmore
Burnett, Coleman, Hargreaves, Baker
C Jordan, B Graham, A Hicks
T Smith, D Jones, J Brown, Cunningham, Eligwe, M Lee

Luck was my 1.2 pick this year in the startup draft and he is arguably the top QB in 2QB leagues. I'm considering this trade, but maybe countering with him adding in one of his LBs (Ogletree or Collins) or DB K Neal...

Thoughts?
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Team 1
16 team PPR IDP
QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, flex, 4DB, 3DL, 3LB, D-flex

Cousins, Kizer
McCoy, Rawls, T Coleman, AP, Farrow, McNichols, B Hill
Hill, Dez, Jeffery, Nelson, Ginn, Garcon, Sharpe, E Rogers, J Brown
J Thomas, Gates, J Smith
Donald, Richardson, Hyder
K Alexander, Kuechly, Beasley, J Brown, Maybin, D Johnson
Jefferson, Breeland, Hargreaves, Adams, D Stewart

Team 3
16 team PPR IDP
QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, flex, 4DB, 3DL, 3LB, D-flex

Winston, Smith, Mahomes, Kizer
Murray, Howard, Henry, Ware, Gio, J Williams, Cohen, Hill
Evans, ARob, Hopkins, Hill, Sanders, Mitchell, Kupp, Taylor, Carroo
D Walker, J James, Sims
Burnett, Jefferson, Hargreaves, Jones-Quartey, T Waynes, Taylor
M Brown, J Hankins, C Dunlap, R Ayers, C Heyward
Wagner, T Smith, L David, D Campbell, M Lee

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby PRESS50 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:19 am

Brady side
10 Team PPR - 25 Man roster: Start (1QB, 2 RB , 2WR, 1TE, 2 FLEX WR,RB,TE) 1DEF,1K) 6pts passing tds

Team #1
QB: Lamar Jackson/CJ Stroud/Flacco
RB: Christian McCaffrey/Alvin Kumara/Dalvin Cook/ Isiah Pacheco/Jerome Ford/Raheem Mostert/Tyjae Spears/Sean Tucker/Gus Edwards
WR: Deebo/Dk Metcalf/Amon Ra St Brown/Cooper Kupp/Marquise Brown/Keenan Allen/Jonathan Mingo/ Jalin Hyatt/Tank Dell
TE: Kittle/Njoku
K: Jake Elliott
DEF:Browns
2024 picks none

Team #2
QB-Joe Burrow
RB Tyjae Spears/Jerome Ford/Chris Rodriguez/ Zamir White/Isiah Spiller/Keaton Mitchell/Sean Tucker
WRS,-AJ Brown/Brandon Aiyuk/Dk Metcalf/Jaylen Waddle/Jerry Jeudy/Jalin Hyatt/Jonathan Mingo/Andrei Losivas
TE- Trey McBride/Michael Mayer
K-Justin Tucker
Eagles D
2024 1st rd pk 1.1
2024 1st rd pk 1.5
2024 1st rd pk 1.7
2024 1st rd pk 1.8
2024 1st rd pk 1.9
2024 1st rd pk 1.10
2024 2nd rd pk 2.1
2024 2nd rd pk 2.6
2024 2nd rd pk 2.8
2024 3rd rd pk 3.1
2024 3rd rd pk 3.6

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby dlf4lyfe » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:19 am

And you already have Rodgers?

The fact that TY is thrown into this deal makes it an instant accept for me.
10 team | 10 Keepers | .5 ppr | QB | RBx2 | WRx2 | RB/WR/TE | WR/TE | K | D/ST

QB: Burrow | Prescott
RB: Chubb | Dobbins | Sanders | Edwards-Helaire | Patterson | Edmonds | Henderson | Edwards | Benjamin
WR/TE: Moore | London | Kelce | Cooks | Lockett | Lazard | Parker | Jones

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby pierson242 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:20 am

Luck will be around so much longer than Brady! Not worth it. I know getting Hilton is awesome but in a true 2QB league. Pass
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Re: Major QB trade

Postby dlf4lyfe » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:23 am

pierson242 wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:20 am Luck will be around so much longer than Brady! Not worth it. I know getting Hilton is awesome but in a true 2QB league. Pass
Oops I missed the 2QB piece. That certainly changes things. Having Luck & Rodgers going each week could win you the league if Luck starts playing to his potential. Brady is gone in the next 2-3 years.
10 team | 10 Keepers | .5 ppr | QB | RBx2 | WRx2 | RB/WR/TE | WR/TE | K | D/ST

QB: Burrow | Prescott
RB: Chubb | Dobbins | Sanders | Edwards-Helaire | Patterson | Edmonds | Henderson | Edwards | Benjamin
WR/TE: Moore | London | Kelce | Cooks | Lockett | Lazard | Parker | Jones

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby theviper » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:26 am

dlf4lyfe wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:23 am
pierson242 wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:20 am Luck will be around so much longer than Brady! Not worth it. I know getting Hilton is awesome but in a true 2QB league. Pass
Oops I missed the 2QB piece. That certainly changes things. Having Luck & Rodgers going each week could win you the league if Luck starts playing to his potential. Brady is gone in the next 2-3 years.
True, Luck will (if injuries don't mess with him) for a long time. If I can get three more years of Brady, I'd be good with that too though. Unfortunately, his other QBs are Bradford and Goff, so not much trading power there.
Team 1
16 team PPR IDP
QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, flex, 4DB, 3DL, 3LB, D-flex

Cousins, Kizer
McCoy, Rawls, T Coleman, AP, Farrow, McNichols, B Hill
Hill, Dez, Jeffery, Nelson, Ginn, Garcon, Sharpe, E Rogers, J Brown
J Thomas, Gates, J Smith
Donald, Richardson, Hyder
K Alexander, Kuechly, Beasley, J Brown, Maybin, D Johnson
Jefferson, Breeland, Hargreaves, Adams, D Stewart

Team 3
16 team PPR IDP
QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, flex, 4DB, 3DL, 3LB, D-flex

Winston, Smith, Mahomes, Kizer
Murray, Howard, Henry, Ware, Gio, J Williams, Cohen, Hill
Evans, ARob, Hopkins, Hill, Sanders, Mitchell, Kupp, Taylor, Carroo
D Walker, J James, Sims
Burnett, Jefferson, Hargreaves, Jones-Quartey, T Waynes, Taylor
M Brown, J Hankins, C Dunlap, R Ayers, C Heyward
Wagner, T Smith, L David, D Campbell, M Lee

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby Kramer » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:29 am

Luck side easily for me in 2QB. I would just keep Luck and Rodgers paired up unless you get a massive overpay for one of them (I'm doing the same thing in my latest startup in team 2 in sig).
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby colonnaj94 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:37 am

Interesting offer. I think I lean Brady and Hilton. Getting Luck in a 2 QB league is nice, but, there is some real concerns with Luck's injuries.. Hilton should be a top 12 WR for a few more seasons.
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Young
RB Harris, Pierce, Chandler, Bigsby, Kelley
WR Johnston, Wicks, Mingo, W Robinson, Z Jones, Marshall, Pierce, Toney, Perry
TE Freiermuth, Ferguson, Kraft, Gray
(3) 24 1sts, (5) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Metcalf, Ridley, Rice
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
DB Smith, Curl, Love, Byard, McKinney

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby theviper » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:41 am

JCDallas wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:37 am Interesting offer. I think I lean Brady and Hilton. Getting Luck in a 2 QB league is nice, but, there is some real concerns with Luck's injuries.. Hilton should be a top 12 WR for a few more seasons.
Exactly why I'm giving it thought...if Brady gets me three more years at these levels and TY will be solid at least 5 more years, I'm good with that. Luck will be great and hard to predict injury (i.e. anything can happen to anyone), but his lingering shoulder issues don't seem to be going away.
Team 1
16 team PPR IDP
QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, flex, 4DB, 3DL, 3LB, D-flex

Cousins, Kizer
McCoy, Rawls, T Coleman, AP, Farrow, McNichols, B Hill
Hill, Dez, Jeffery, Nelson, Ginn, Garcon, Sharpe, E Rogers, J Brown
J Thomas, Gates, J Smith
Donald, Richardson, Hyder
K Alexander, Kuechly, Beasley, J Brown, Maybin, D Johnson
Jefferson, Breeland, Hargreaves, Adams, D Stewart

Team 3
16 team PPR IDP
QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, flex, 4DB, 3DL, 3LB, D-flex

Winston, Smith, Mahomes, Kizer
Murray, Howard, Henry, Ware, Gio, J Williams, Cohen, Hill
Evans, ARob, Hopkins, Hill, Sanders, Mitchell, Kupp, Taylor, Carroo
D Walker, J James, Sims
Burnett, Jefferson, Hargreaves, Jones-Quartey, T Waynes, Taylor
M Brown, J Hankins, C Dunlap, R Ayers, C Heyward
Wagner, T Smith, L David, D Campbell, M Lee

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby QuintorrisLopezJones » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:47 am

Luck.... so so easily
10 Team League .5 PPR QB, 3WR, 2RB, TE, 2FLEX, K, DEF
QB: Brees, Big Ben, Watson
WR: Julio Jones, AJ Green, Alshon Jeffery, DeVante Parker,Sammy Watkins, Michael Crabtree, Agholor
RB: Le'Veon Bell, Todd Gurley, Fournette, Lynch, Conner
TE: Travis Kelce , Hooper, Doyle
K: Bryant
DEF: JAX

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby jeffster » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:56 am

Luck by sooooo much.

Brady will be 40 before the season starts. He's got to be in the running for one of the best QBs of all time, period, but predicting 3 more years of good production is super optimistic. When Manning's cliff came, it came fast.

Plus this is real 2QB, not Superflex. And your backup is Palmer, who is 37 and talking openly about retirement.

This isn't even in the ballpark for me.

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby moishetreats » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:28 am

I. Can't. Decide.

Everyone who defended Luck is entirely correct.

But, with starting rosters this deep in a 12-team league, depth is essential. Hilton is no minor piece, and in a 2TE and TE-premium league, neither is Bennett.

Here's the awkwardness: I prefer Luck because your team, as-is, doesn't look like the elite of the elite (though easily a playoff team). Thus, you keep Luck for the future.

On the other hand, making this trade DOES, I believe, put you in the elite of the elite.

Ultimately, I'd look at the competition. If you think that this trade jumps you out in front of the pack, then I'd do it while crying. If not, then I'd probably pass -- while crying.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby Gtdano_14 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:34 am

Good offer. But it's a pass. The only way Luck leaves my team in that league is if I get an average QB and stud RB back in return. Your WRs are ok, but that RB position is a real weakness and I wouldn't trade away my best piece unless it helped me address that gaping hole in the lineup...
16 Team PPR 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 TE - 1 Flex
QB- R.Wilson, B. Mayfield
RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
TE- G. Kittle, Enron, C. Herndon
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Re: Major QB trade

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:42 am

You cite all of Luck's injury concerns and how that scares you but then say how Hilton is going to be good for 5 more years. If Luck is hurt they both won't produce on the same level...So you may be left with no QB and a WR with a horrible qb.

Personally I would keep luck and pair him with rodgers. People want to bash luck and say how bad he was yet he was, depending on scoring, somewhere in the QB5-QV7 range last year...
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: Major QB trade

Postby theviper » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:46 am

Gtdano_14 wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:34 am Good offer. But it's a pass. The only way Luck leaves my team in that league is if I get an average QB and stud RB back in return. Your WRs are ok, but that RB position is a real weakness and I wouldn't trade away my best piece unless it helped me address that gaping hole in the lineup...
Very valid point
Team 1
16 team PPR IDP
QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, flex, 4DB, 3DL, 3LB, D-flex

Cousins, Kizer
McCoy, Rawls, T Coleman, AP, Farrow, McNichols, B Hill
Hill, Dez, Jeffery, Nelson, Ginn, Garcon, Sharpe, E Rogers, J Brown
J Thomas, Gates, J Smith
Donald, Richardson, Hyder
K Alexander, Kuechly, Beasley, J Brown, Maybin, D Johnson
Jefferson, Breeland, Hargreaves, Adams, D Stewart

Team 3
16 team PPR IDP
QB, 2RB, 4WR, TE, flex, 4DB, 3DL, 3LB, D-flex

Winston, Smith, Mahomes, Kizer
Murray, Howard, Henry, Ware, Gio, J Williams, Cohen, Hill
Evans, ARob, Hopkins, Hill, Sanders, Mitchell, Kupp, Taylor, Carroo
D Walker, J James, Sims
Burnett, Jefferson, Hargreaves, Jones-Quartey, T Waynes, Taylor
M Brown, J Hankins, C Dunlap, R Ayers, C Heyward
Wagner, T Smith, L David, D Campbell, M Lee


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