Do I trade for Baldwin? (poll added)

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Do I trade for Baldwin?

Baldwin/Malcolm Mitchell
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75%
Doctson/Eifert/2018 2nd (mid to late most likely)
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25%
 
Total votes: 16

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Do I trade for Baldwin? (poll added)

Postby KeepCalmandDynasty » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:38 am

This is for a 16 team league, 1pt PPR; 1.5 for TE. Lineups look like QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX

So Baldwin is a guy that I think is still a little undervalued and the owner put him on the block. We got to talking and I have the current offer in my inbox. This is for a 16 team league, 1pt PPR; 1.5 for TEs.

Give: Doctson, Eifert, 2018 2nd (thinking mid to late)

Get: Baldwin, Malcolm Mitchell

Here is my roster

QB: Carr, Bridgewater,
RB: Fournette, Cook, Coleman, Lacy. Yeldon, McNichols
WR: ARob, K. Allen, Adams, Corey Davis, M. Bryant, Shepard, Doctson, Britt, Hogan, Taylor, Reynolds
TE: Eifert, Doyle, Shaheen, Kittle
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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin

Postby Gtdano_14 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:43 am

Pass. I don't think much of Mitchell so I'm factoring him and the 2nd out of the equation. I don't think weakening your TE is worth getting a WR4 upgrade on your team. The value is good going off ADP, but you are trading away the younger assets for a guy who just had his best season in his 6th year. Also, the Seahawks just added depth to their RBs so they could run more and throw less.
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QB- R.Wilson, B. Mayfield
RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
TE- G. Kittle, Enron, C. Herndon
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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin

Postby The.Big.Spank » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:44 am

Pretty even. I like the Baldwin side. Seems more consistent and proven to me. Plus I think Eifert is the Sammy Watkins of WR's.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
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QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:23 am

Baldwin side for me, and pretty easily

Well I don't necessarily agree that Baldwin becomes your WR4...based on recent production over the last 3 years he would easily be the most productive WR on your team. AROB needs to rebound, Keenan has been oft injured and we are not sure if adams reproduces what he did last year or disappears like he did two years ago. I am a big eifert fan, but I would bet even with the 1.5 ppr he probably still doesn't touch Baldwins scoring. Not a huge fan of Mitchell given all the mouths in NE, doctson is pure upside, and if cousins leaves after this year it could be a huge hit to his value/production. In a 16 teamer it will hurt your TE production, but the rest of your team looks poised to compete.
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin

Postby murphysxm » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:33 am

I actually think Doyle outperforms Eifert when you factor in injuries. Baldwin is much better than your WR4 and I like Mitchell more than Doctson. Easy yes for me
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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin

Postby Kramer » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am

I wish there was a poll to this. I'd love to see the responses. I think it's a pretty fair deal. I would personally rather have Eifert/Doctson side. Eifert gives you a huge edge at TE in a 16 teamer. Doctson will also get plenty of opportunities this year as well. I do agree with the notion that the Baldwin side is the safer side of the deal. So I wouldn't mind going that route if you want. I would look to acquire another TE if you do trade away Eifert. Doyle is poised to have a good year, but you never know and might want to have a backup plan in place.
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QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin

Postby KeepCalmandDynasty » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:48 am

Kramer wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:42 am I wish there was a poll to this. I'd love to see the responses.
I should of done that actually. Poll added

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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin? (poll added)

Postby RB6 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 am

Baldwin side. Best piece in the deal by far.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin? (poll added)

Postby skip » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:06 am

My vote went to Doctson/Eifert due to this being a 16 team league and the TE premium. BUT you also have a pretty great team in this format so I can definitely see the appeal of being able to plug Baldwin in to start rather than crossing your fingers on Keenan or Martavis. Mitchell is a complete non-factor for me as I'd prefer the 2nd round pick. If you were a team needing the depth in a league of this size, the value is better on the other side (where I voted)
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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin? (poll added)

Postby moishetreats » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:27 am

Easily Baldwin side.

Eifert is a fool's gold TE in this format: he is NOT a big pass-catcher (he is a prolific scorer). Baldwin will out-produce him by a significant amount over the next few seasons, and Doctson is a wild card.
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Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin? (poll added)

Postby Goddard » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:38 am

I think you have enough depth to pull this off, as long as you're ok with having Doyle as your starting TE.

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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin? (poll added)

Postby dlf4lyfe » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:39 am

Baldwin side here. Doyle at TE is sturdy enough moving forward.

Mitchell is intriguing to me, even with all the weapons around him. The fact that he came into New England and was able to pick up that offense enough to gain the trust of McDaniels & Brady is telling in my opinion. No other receiver has really been able to do that. He's got potential. Hopefully he can carve out a roll opposite Cooks so Edelman & Amendola can play more slot/motion.
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RB: Chubb | Dobbins | Sanders | Edwards-Helaire | Patterson | Edmonds | Henderson | Edwards | Benjamin
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Re: Do I trade for Baldwin? (poll added)

Postby PRESS50 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:58 am

Baldwin x2
10 Team PPR - 25 Man roster: Start (1QB, 2 RB , 2WR, 1TE, 2 FLEX WR,RB,TE) 1DEF,1K) 6pts passing tds

Team #1
QB: Lamar Jackson/CJ Stroud/Flacco
RB: Christian McCaffrey/Alvin Kumara/Dalvin Cook/ Isiah Pacheco/Jerome Ford/Raheem Mostert/Tyjae Spears/Sean Tucker/Gus Edwards
WR: Deebo/Dk Metcalf/Amon Ra St Brown/Cooper Kupp/Marquise Brown/Keenan Allen/Jonathan Mingo/ Jalin Hyatt/Tank Dell
TE: Kittle/Njoku
K: Jake Elliott
DEF:Browns
2024 picks none

Team #2
QB-Joe Burrow
RB Tyjae Spears/Jerome Ford/Chris Rodriguez/ Zamir White/Isiah Spiller/Keaton Mitchell/Sean Tucker
WRS,-AJ Brown/Brandon Aiyuk/Dk Metcalf/Jaylen Waddle/Jerry Jeudy/Jalin Hyatt/Jonathan Mingo/Andrei Losivas
TE- Trey McBride/Michael Mayer
K-Justin Tucker
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2024 1st rd pk 1.1
2024 1st rd pk 1.5
2024 1st rd pk 1.7
2024 1st rd pk 1.8
2024 1st rd pk 1.9
2024 1st rd pk 1.10
2024 2nd rd pk 2.1
2024 2nd rd pk 2.6
2024 2nd rd pk 2.8
2024 3rd rd pk 3.1
2024 3rd rd pk 3.6


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