Evans+ for David Johnson+

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Which side?

Poll ended at Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:36 am

Evans, Melvin Gordon, Mariota
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39%
David Johnson, Amari Cooper
19
61%
 
Total votes: 31

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Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby xcatcher » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:36 am

Have been offered David Johnson and Amari Cooper for Mike Evans, Melvin Gordon and Marcus Mariota. I love the thought of having a consistent RB1 and a WR with the potential to be a top 5 WR. I struggle with letting go of Mike Evans and knowing Gordon is setup to have another good year. Thoughts? Team in sig.
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby QuintorrisLopezJones » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:38 am

10 team, 1QB, Mariota doesn't move the needle at all. I'm going with the DJ side. I think the gap of Amari to MG is more than Evans to DJ.
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby The.Big.Spank » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:42 am

I think Evan's numbers come back to earth this season and the difference between him and Cooper will be negligible, if any at all. I like DJ and Cooper. Its why they are on my team!
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:25 am

The.Big.Spank wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:42 am I think Evan's numbers come back to earth this season and the difference between him and Cooper will be negligible, if any at all. I like DJ and Cooper. Its why they are on my team!
Not sure what you mean by down to earth, it is not as if he put up 2000 yards and 20 tds. I also expect DJs numbers to come down as well and I think that the two of them are close to even. It comes down to what you think of MG3/Cooper and what you need more. I think both should produce again this year.

I think overall the VALUE is on the DJ/Cooper side but it is close.
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby murphysxm » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:29 am

replace Cooks for Evans and see if he bites. Otherwise I stay pat, but I am low on Cooper and don't think he will ever live up to the hype
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby Kramer » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:32 am

Evans and DJ aren't too far apart. However, I'd much rather have Cooper than Gordon and Mariota (in 1QB).
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby ChickenBeaks » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:47 am

Gordon is the X factor for me. The rest seem stable, but I cannot get a read if he is the guy from last year or 2015. . . DJ/Coop for me. All day long
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby jcc6fd » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:52 am

You're basically reconfiguring your team from being centered around Evans to being centered around DJ. I like being centered around a stud WR. I also don't know why or how Cooper gets lumped in with the elite WR rankings when he's yet to prove what they have. I think it's totally fair, just would prefer Evans over DJ.
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:05 am

Evans side pretty easy for me in a 16-team league.

Mariota's value goes way up with that many teams.
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby Goddard » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:35 am

I think it's close. It will depend on how you value Gordon.

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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby BradysBunch » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:37 am

24FlavorsofFun wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:05 am Evans side pretty easy for me in a 16-team league.

Mariota's value goes way up with that many teams.
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby jeffster » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:47 am

I have Evans >> DJ and Cooper >> Gordon, so that's tough. I would take the Evans side because he's the best piece in the deal and I don't like putting that sort of value in an RB.

Mariota doesn't change anything for me in a shallow 10-team league.

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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby dlf4lyfe » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:51 am

xcatcher wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:36 am Have been offered David Johnson and Amari Cooper for Mike Evans, Melvin Gordon and Marcus Mariota. I love the thought of having a consistent RB1 and a WR with the potential to be a top 5 WR. I struggle with letting go of Mike Evans and knowing Gordon is setup to have another good year. Thoughts? Team in sig.
Looks like the other owner is targeting Mariota and de-valuing him a little bit because you already have Wilson.

I originally voted DJ & Coop but knowing now it's 16-team league I think your giving up a little too much. I like the idea of seeing if you can swap out Evans for Cooks and still get the deal done.

Your team looks pretty solid for 16-team league as is. Don't make a move just to make a move, but definitely pull the trigger if it favors you!
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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby jeffster » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:09 am

It's not a 16 team league, it's a 10 team league with 16 man rosters.

At least according to his sig.

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Re: Evans+ for David Johnson+

Postby 0crush83 » Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:29 pm

I'd take DJ/Cooper here. Though it is pretty close. After acquiring Cooper I'd throw him OTB and hope the Julio/AJG/AB owners prefer youth.
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