Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

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Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby bbsmitz » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:13 pm

So I inherited this team (first time doing dynasty) and am in massive rebuild mode (team in sig), and had another team make me an offer of Zach Zenner and Rishard Matthews for Marquise Lee. I thought this was a pretty weak offer, particularly for a rebuilding team, but I figure if he's interested I might as well offer something back. Notables on his team are...

QB: Mariota
RB: Mixon, Fournette, Hyde, Burkhead, Foreman
WR: Cooper, Corey Davis, Kenny Stills, Treadwell, Tyrell Williams, Sammie Coates, Robby Anderson, Curtis Samuel, John Ross.
TE: Hunter Henry, Fiedorowicz, Maxx Williams

I thought about

1) AJ Green + Lee for Cooper. I wonder if I'm giving away too much here, but I'm pretty high on Cooper.
2) Lee + someone, but not sure who (Lacy? Woods?), for Hunter Henry. Again, is this too much?

Thoughts on either of these trades, or any other trade suggestions would be helpful.
12 owner, ppr league. 24 man rosters. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 WR/TE/RB.

QB: Goff, Watson
RB: Jacobs, Chubb, Guice, Royce Freeman, Duke Johnson, Tarik Cohen, Ballage, Hines, Edmonds
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Davante Adams, Tyler Lockett, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Justin Jefferson (Taxi), Mims (Taxi), Marquise Brown, Marquise Lee, Funchess, Hurd, Preston Williams
TE: Cook, Kittle, Gerald Everett

2020: 2.09, 4.09
2021: All picks.

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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:15 pm

I would probably prefer Matthews to Lee, personally
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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby bbsmitz » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:33 pm

I figured he's older, and will potentially be #3 on the Titans depth chart come the season, while I think Lee passes Hurns for #2 on the Jags.
12 owner, ppr league. 24 man rosters. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 WR/TE/RB.

QB: Goff, Watson
RB: Jacobs, Chubb, Guice, Royce Freeman, Duke Johnson, Tarik Cohen, Ballage, Hines, Edmonds
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Davante Adams, Tyler Lockett, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Justin Jefferson (Taxi), Mims (Taxi), Marquise Brown, Marquise Lee, Funchess, Hurd, Preston Williams
TE: Cook, Kittle, Gerald Everett

2020: 2.09, 4.09
2021: All picks.

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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby skip » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:40 pm

I don't like the idea of moving AJG and Lee for Cooper. You don't improve your WRs and you actually hurt yourself by giving up Lee in the deal. The problem with your team is you have very few assets to work with and you're going to have a tough time landing a Hunter Henry (for example) without giving up a decent asset. Lee or Woods aren't really getting you much. At least nothing that already has value. Target players that are at "bottom" with an opportunity to gain a lot of value - like Treadwell. I'd start with a Lee for Treadwell straight up offer and see what kind of a reply you get. It's light but more plausible that landing a bigger fish right now.
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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby bbsmitz » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:46 pm

skip wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:40 pm I don't like the idea of moving AJG and Lee for Cooper. You don't improve your WRs and you actually hurt yourself by giving up Lee in the deal. The problem with your team is you have very few assets to work with and you're going to have a tough time landing a Hunter Henry (for example) without giving up a decent asset. Lee or Woods aren't really getting you much. At least nothing that already has value. Target players that are at "bottom" with an opportunity to gain a lot of value - like Treadwell. I'd start with a Lee for Treadwell straight up offer and see what kind of a reply you get. It's light but more plausible that landing a bigger fish right now.
So you think something like Lee + Woods for Henry is way short?

I thought about Treadwell, but he's looking more and more like a bust. Do you think his upside is worth the risk?

Thanks for your response!
12 owner, ppr league. 24 man rosters. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 WR/TE/RB.

QB: Goff, Watson
RB: Jacobs, Chubb, Guice, Royce Freeman, Duke Johnson, Tarik Cohen, Ballage, Hines, Edmonds
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Davante Adams, Tyler Lockett, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Justin Jefferson (Taxi), Mims (Taxi), Marquise Brown, Marquise Lee, Funchess, Hurd, Preston Williams
TE: Cook, Kittle, Gerald Everett

2020: 2.09, 4.09
2021: All picks.

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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby LondonMonarchs » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:52 pm

I like Lee and own him in a few places, but it looks like you are valuing him too highly. The Hunter Henry deal is a non-starter if Lee is key to that deal (prob need a late 1st in there). You are probably better off keeping hold of Lee. I understand people taking a chance on a rookie who has never played an NFL snap before, but it is another thing taking a chance on a guy who has 5 TDs in 39 games.
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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby repeatoffender115 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:58 pm

If you are re-building, why not hold a young Marqise Lee and see what he does this year?
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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby Goddard » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:11 pm

Try Lee for a 2nd straight up.

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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby bbsmitz » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:24 pm

repeatoffender115 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:58 pm If you are re-building, why not hold a young Marqise Lee and see what he does this year?
He is 25 and I was hoping I could move him for even younger. But I'm not desperate and will definitely hold if I don't get a good return for him.
12 owner, ppr league. 24 man rosters. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 WR/TE/RB.

QB: Goff, Watson
RB: Jacobs, Chubb, Guice, Royce Freeman, Duke Johnson, Tarik Cohen, Ballage, Hines, Edmonds
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Davante Adams, Tyler Lockett, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Justin Jefferson (Taxi), Mims (Taxi), Marquise Brown, Marquise Lee, Funchess, Hurd, Preston Williams
TE: Cook, Kittle, Gerald Everett

2020: 2.09, 4.09
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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby Maximus891 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:45 am

IMO Lee is the best WR on the jags. His issue is that he wasn't able to stay healthy enough to be on the field. He was drafted before A Rod, but injuries allowed him and Hurns to pass him on the depth chart. If Lee can stay healthy again like last season I can easily see him taking over WR1 from A Rod. I'm holding Lee in all my leagues.
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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby pierson242 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:17 am

bbsmitz wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:24 pm
repeatoffender115 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:58 pm If you are re-building, why not hold a young Marqise Lee and see what he does this year?
He is 25 and I was hoping I could move him for even younger. But I'm not desperate and will definitely hold if I don't get a good return for him.
Rookies will be what 2 maybe 3 years younger that's nothing for a WR. I'd look to acquire some 2018 picks. Can't rebuild if you can't draft new talent
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Re: Selling Marquise Lee, help me make a counter

Postby Balzac » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:11 am

I would keep Lee personally. He will gain a lot of value this year.

You need to trade ajg and probably Lacy once he has a few good games.

If you end up trading with that guy try to get Robbie Anderson thrown in. I think he will also gain value this year.
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