Fournette or Mixon

[Maximus891]

Also, just in terms of the length of their leash for not immediately being perfect, Fournette being the 4th pick and Mixon being the 48th should give Fournette the edge, if other factors can't clearly separate the two.

If Mixon didn't make a horrible decision in his past do you think Fournette still goes 4th? Mixon was widely regarded as the best talent in the draft at RB just a huge risk factor. I don't think any other RB in the draft would go before the 4th round if they did what Mixon did. Just my thoughts.
I'm taking Mixon at 1.1 if I have it, but where I did I dropped back and got him at 1.3

[pierson242]

Also, just in terms of the length of their leash for not immediately being perfect, Fournette being the 4th pick and Mixon being the 48th should give Fournette the edge, if other factors can't clearly separate the two.

If Mixon didn't make a horrible decision in his past do you think Fournette still goes 4th? Mixon was widely regarded as the best talent in the draft at RB just a huge risk factor. I don't think any other RB in the draft would go before the 4th round if they did what Mixon did. Just my thoughts.
I'm taking Mixon at 1.1 if I have it, but where I did I dropped back and got him at 1.3

Exactly what I was going to say! We cannot determine everything off of where your drafted. Tom Brady cough cough. Also last year Jordan howard was what a 5th round pick???

[pierson242]

wow Mixon gathering is strong as ever..Never thought the overwhelming majority would push for him to be #1...

He does have talent, but no way I would take him over fournette as a top 5 pick or even other guys such as dalvin, cmc, and the 2 wrs...How does a guy who takes over games such as cmc, dalvin, and fournette go behind a guy who's talent couldn't even lead him to carry the load on his own college team...

He would need to prove more on that aspect before I could even fathom a push to #1 in this talented group and thats not even factoring in his off the field issues..the risk far outweighs the investment at that price, but call me crazy

Mixon split time with Samaje Perine, a guy who was also drafted in the NFL draft this year. Not like he was splitting carries with Jo Shmo. Also if you take a look Fournette split carries this year as well, Guice ran for nearly 1,400 yards this year. So not sure how Mixon didn't carry the load but fournette did

[jeffster]

Also, just in terms of the length of their leash for not immediately being perfect, Fournette being the 4th pick and Mixon being the 48th should give Fournette the edge, if other factors can't clearly separate the two.

If Mixon didn't make a horrible decision in his past do you think Fournette still goes 4th? Mixon was widely regarded as the best talent in the draft at RB just a huge risk factor. I don't think any other RB in the draft would go before the 4th round if they did what Mixon did. Just my thoughts.
I'm taking Mixon at 1.1 if I have it, but where I did I dropped back and got him at 1.3

Exactly what I was going to say! We cannot determine everything off of where your drafted. Tom Brady cough cough. Also last year Jordan howard was what a 5th round pick???

This isn't actually relevant to my point.

Whatever the reason Mixon fell may be, management people are a lot less likely to loose their jobs over cutting the 48th pick off than they are if they pull the plug on the 4th pick. So if you can't separate the two based on other things, that provides an edge for Fournette.

If you just clearly think Mixon is the best of the two, go for it.

[tstafford]

Also, just in terms of the length of their leash for not immediately being perfect, Fournette being the 4th pick and Mixon being the 48th should give Fournette the edge, if other factors can't clearly separate the two.

If Mixon didn't make a horrible decision in his past do you think Fournette still goes 4th? Mixon was widely regarded as the best talent in the draft at RB just a huge risk factor. I don't think any other RB in the draft would go before the 4th round if they did what Mixon did. Just my thoughts.
I'm taking Mixon at 1.1 if I have it, but where I did I dropped back and got him at 1.3

I don't believe Mixon was "widely regarded as the best talent".

[pierson242]

Also, just in terms of the length of their leash for not immediately being perfect, Fournette being the 4th pick and Mixon being the 48th should give Fournette the edge, if other factors can't clearly separate the two.

If Mixon didn't make a horrible decision in his past do you think Fournette still goes 4th? Mixon was widely regarded as the best talent in the draft at RB just a huge risk factor. I don't think any other RB in the draft would go before the 4th round if they did what Mixon did. Just my thoughts.
I'm taking Mixon at 1.1 if I have it, but where I did I dropped back and got him at 1.3

I don't believe Mixon was "widely regarded as the best talent".

There actually was quit a few anylast with resorts saying he may be one the best talents in the drafts but also had a bad reputation which would cause him to fall

[jeffster]

If Mixon didn't make a horrible decision in his past do you think Fournette still goes 4th? Mixon was widely regarded as the best talent in the draft at RB just a huge risk factor. I don't think any other RB in the draft would go before the 4th round if they did what Mixon did. Just my thoughts.
I'm taking Mixon at 1.1 if I have it, but where I did I dropped back and got him at 1.3

I don't believe Mixon was "widely regarded as the best talent".

There actually was quit a few anylast with resorts saying he may be one the best talents in the drafts but also had a bad reputation which would cause him to fall

I suppose some did, but I don't think it rose to the "widely regarded" level. Here's Waldman in the RSP, for example, where he ranked him RB3:

"One of the reasons I love writing this pre-draft
publication is that I can take an agnostic view of factors
that influence the value of a prospect, but have nothing
to do with on-field talent. In Mixon’s case, don’t mistake
it for a convenient way to ignore violence—especially
violence against women.
My business requires my product be seen by the general
public. My personal views have nothing to do with what
my product is about: delivering analysis about how good
a potential NFL player is, and can be, as a professional."

[tstafford]

If Mixon didn't make a horrible decision in his past do you think Fournette still goes 4th? Mixon was widely regarded as the best talent in the draft at RB just a huge risk factor. I don't think any other RB in the draft would go before the 4th round if they did what Mixon did. Just my thoughts.
I'm taking Mixon at 1.1 if I have it, but where I did I dropped back and got him at 1.3

I don't believe Mixon was "widely regarded as the best talent".

There actually was quit a few anylast with resorts saying he may be one the best talents in the drafts but also had a bad reputation which would cause him to fall

There's a big difference b/w "quite a few analysts" saying "he may be" x, y or z. And saying he is "widely regarded as the best talent".

It's beginning to seem like he's widely regarded by DLF forum members as the best talent!

[schiewerma21]

Yea I agree with tim. Mixon was certainly "in the mix" as the best rb talent but certainly wasn't "widely regarded" anywhere.

The reality is there is a good chance with no off the field issues he fournette and mccaffrey are all top 10 picks as the bengals clearly loved this kid and likely take him 9 with a clean slate

[vbbish]

I have 1.01 in both drafts and even as a HUGE Bengals fan I will be picking Fournette in both.

Gio will continue to have a large role in the passing game which will limit Mixon's potential impact, the O-Line is a mess and Marvin Lewis is the last guy that just hands people starting spots, regardless of draft position. Rookies REALLY need to prove themselves before they are given opportunity.

While I do agree that long term Mixon has potentially a higher ceiling, I think in the short term Fournette will offer the biggest immediate bang for your buck and ultimately trade value. Dynasty players are SOO what have you done for me lately I can quite easily imagine a world where im trading Fournette for Mixon plus a lot

[pierson242]

I have 1.01 in both drafts and even as a HUGE Bengals fan I will be picking Fournette in both.

Gio will continue to have a large role in the passing game which will limit Mixon's potential impact, the O-Line is a mess and Marvin Lewis is the last guy that just hands people starting spots, regardless of draft position. Rookies REALLY need to prove themselves before they are given opportunity.

While I do agree that long term Mixon has potentially a higher ceiling, I think in the short term Fournette will offer the biggest immediate bang for your buck and ultimately trade value. Dynasty players are SOO what have you done for me lately I can quite easily imagine a world where im trading Fournette for Mixon plus a lot

See Yeldon and JAX oline

[vbbish]

I have 1.01 in both drafts and even as a HUGE Bengals fan I will be picking Fournette in both.

Gio will continue to have a large role in the passing game which will limit Mixon's potential impact, the O-Line is a mess and Marvin Lewis is the last guy that just hands people starting spots, regardless of draft position. Rookies REALLY need to prove themselves before they are given opportunity.

While I do agree that long term Mixon has potentially a higher ceiling, I think in the short term Fournette will offer the biggest immediate bang for your buck and ultimately trade value. Dynasty players are SOO what have you done for me lately I can quite easily imagine a world where im trading Fournette for Mixon plus a lot

See Yeldon and JAX oline

While I understand the comparison you're comparing a guy who both the team and coaching staff has a huge amount of faith in. Every single time that game was close Hill hit the bench and the ball was put in Gio's hands.

While JAX has shown over and over that they don't believe in Yeldon. Ivory was brought in because they didnt believe in him, they spent a top 5 pick on a RB because they don't believe in him.

Im not arguing that Mixon will eventually become the guy. I just think that expectations need to be tempered when it comes to Mixon's immediate impact

[spotxc]

wow Mixon gathering is strong as ever..Never thought the overwhelming majority would push for him to be #1...

He does have talent, but no way I would take him over fournette as a top 5 pick or even other guys such as dalvin, cmc, and the 2 wrs...How does a guy who takes over games such as cmc, dalvin, and fournette go behind a guy who's talent couldn't even lead him to carry the load on his own college team...

He would need to prove more on that aspect before I could even fathom a push to #1 in this talented group and thats not even factoring in his off the field issues..the risk far outweighs the investment at that price, but call me crazy

Mixon split time with Samaje Perine, a guy who was also drafted in the NFL draft this year. Not like he was splitting carries with Jo Shmo. Also if you take a look Fournette split carries this year as well, Guice ran for nearly 1,400 yards this year. So not sure how Mixon didn't carry the load but fournette did

Guice ran for that cause fournette got hurt. But see year before. He carried team

Even if mixon had no off field issues and went somewhat earlier, fournette should still be ahead. Unfortunately, it's yet to be seen if he can even handle the 3 down work he's been automatically awarded since he had perine

[DJB]

Fournette and don't overthink it.

[cvbuc]

My motto whenever in doubt like this... trade back two spots and accumulate other assets.