This is a big money, 14-team semi-dynasty league with some salaries and contracts. Standard scoring with .5 PPR; Pass TD's are 5 pts. All contracts stay with the players, and at expiration they are dropped to the FA pool for the August auction (we now get the option to franchise tag a player at the end of their contract for a fee). We have a $200 hard limit and all players not under contract are currently dropped. Drafted rookies start at $0 and go up in price each year.
One owner severely wants Cooper from me, but I have been holding out for Evans in return.
His offer currently on the table:
Mike Evans ($10/2 years)
--for--
Amari Cooper ($3/2 years) & Dak Prescott ($2/3 years)
Evans finished WR2, Cooper WR12 and Dak QB6 last season
My current roster:
QB: Matt Ryan ($17/2), Dak Prescott ($2/3)
RB: Dalvin Cook ($0/4), Rob Kelley ($3/2), Shane Vereen ($12/+), Chris Thompson ($10/1)
WR: AJ Green ($10/2), Amari Cooper ($3/2), Kenny Stills ($3/1)
TE: Jimmy Graham ($10/1), Austin Hooper ($1/2)
His current roster:
QB: Philip Rivers ($9/1), Andy Dalton ($9/2), Jared Goff ($5/3), Nick Foles ($1/2)
RB: Jay Ajayi ($9/+), Lamar Miller ($56/1), Duke Johnson ($3/2), Gio Bernard ($27/1)
WR: Antonio Brown ($10/2), Mike Evans ($10/2), Willie Snead ($14/2), Tavon Austin ($2/1), Paul Richardson ($1/3)
TE: Hunter Henry ($5/3), Jared Cook ($6/+)
I have been looking to trade Dak for RB help, so am not sure if I want to include him in a deal that doesn't have a RB coming back. He was basically my QB1B to Ryan last year, and was planning the same this season. I should also get some decent RB help in the FA auction. So am I getting too greedy if I ask for Duke Johnson as well in his proposed deal? Is Dak too much to give to bridge the gap between Evans and Cooper?
Cooper/Dak for Evans
Cooper/Dak for Evans
FNFL Dynasty League (est. 2006) - 12 teams, tiered PPR, hybrid lineups, full IDP, salary & contract caps
Championships (7): 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021, 2023
QB: Herbert, Young*
RB: CMC, J. Cook, Montgomery, Allgeier*, Miller*
WR: St. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, Douglas*, Mims*, Q. Johnson*
TE: Pitts, McBride, Goedert, Njoku, Likely*
PK: Moody
DT: Barmore
DE: Cooper, Landry
LB: Franklin, Singleton, Lloyd, Landman
S: Bates, James, Bynum, Pitre
* Taxi Squad
2024 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.09, 4.12
Championships (7): 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021, 2023
QB: Herbert, Young*
RB: CMC, J. Cook, Montgomery, Allgeier*, Miller*
WR: St. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, Douglas*, Mims*, Q. Johnson*
TE: Pitts, McBride, Goedert, Njoku, Likely*
PK: Moody
DT: Barmore
DE: Cooper, Landry
LB: Franklin, Singleton, Lloyd, Landman
S: Bates, James, Bynum, Pitre
* Taxi Squad
2024 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.09, 4.12
Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
Since you only have to start 1 QB, I'd give that for Evans. Especially since he and Cooper are both on 2 year deals. You can always try to see if he'll throw on Duke, but I think it's a pretty good deal either way.
Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
I don't think there's enough difference I just go ahead and stay Pat.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller
SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee
SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart
2020 2 1st & 2nd
Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller
SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee
SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart
2020 2 1st & 2nd
Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
That was my first instinct for a counter, but just don't know if Duke is worth it for giving up an asset like Dak.
FNFL Dynasty League (est. 2006) - 12 teams, tiered PPR, hybrid lineups, full IDP, salary & contract caps
Championships (7): 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021, 2023
QB: Herbert, Young*
RB: CMC, J. Cook, Montgomery, Allgeier*, Miller*
WR: St. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, Douglas*, Mims*, Q. Johnson*
TE: Pitts, McBride, Goedert, Njoku, Likely*
PK: Moody
DT: Barmore
DE: Cooper, Landry
LB: Franklin, Singleton, Lloyd, Landman
S: Bates, James, Bynum, Pitre
* Taxi Squad
2024 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.09, 4.12
Championships (7): 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021, 2023
QB: Herbert, Young*
RB: CMC, J. Cook, Montgomery, Allgeier*, Miller*
WR: St. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, Douglas*, Mims*, Q. Johnson*
TE: Pitts, McBride, Goedert, Njoku, Likely*
PK: Moody
DT: Barmore
DE: Cooper, Landry
LB: Franklin, Singleton, Lloyd, Landman
S: Bates, James, Bynum, Pitre
* Taxi Squad
2024 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.09, 4.12
Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
I like Dak a lot, but you're getting a top 2 startup player. It's not like you're trading Dak for Duke straight up. Especially since you already own Ryan and this is a 1QB league. If you want to keep Dak, maybe counter with Cooper and Ryan for Evans and a better piece than Duke. I don't see the incentive of keeping both QBs if you can upgrade other positions.
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Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
I don't feel like doing the maths, are there any negative implications to Evans salary vs what you're giving? If not, Evans all day
Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
Not really, other than he costs more. He is $10 for the next two years, then I'll have to Franchise him for another year at $25.Generic Username wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:53 am I don't feel like doing the maths, are there any negative implications to Evans salary vs what you're giving? If not, Evans all day
Amari is on a progressive rookie deal, so he costs $3 this year then $4 for next season. He could be Franchised for an extra year at $15.
Dak is just $2 for the next 3 years.
FNFL Dynasty League (est. 2006) - 12 teams, tiered PPR, hybrid lineups, full IDP, salary & contract caps
Championships (7): 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021, 2023
QB: Herbert, Young*
RB: CMC, J. Cook, Montgomery, Allgeier*, Miller*
WR: St. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, Douglas*, Mims*, Q. Johnson*
TE: Pitts, McBride, Goedert, Njoku, Likely*
PK: Moody
DT: Barmore
DE: Cooper, Landry
LB: Franklin, Singleton, Lloyd, Landman
S: Bates, James, Bynum, Pitre
* Taxi Squad
2024 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.09, 4.12
Championships (7): 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021, 2023
QB: Herbert, Young*
RB: CMC, J. Cook, Montgomery, Allgeier*, Miller*
WR: St. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, Douglas*, Mims*, Q. Johnson*
TE: Pitts, McBride, Goedert, Njoku, Likely*
PK: Moody
DT: Barmore
DE: Cooper, Landry
LB: Franklin, Singleton, Lloyd, Landman
S: Bates, James, Bynum, Pitre
* Taxi Squad
2024 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.09, 4.12
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Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
stay I like the pieces at the prices you have them...I don't like that 25$ jump when you know you will retain him...look what hes dealing with currently with gio B lol 27$ that's nuts when cooper is 3$ haha
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
That is definitely a factor I take into consideration, as Amari will cost $15 in Year 3, and $23 in Year 4 and so on...(franchise fee is 150% of previous year salary every time you tag the player). Whereas Evans will cost $25 for Year 3, then $38 for Year 4.ROSSCO7777 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:43 am stay I like the pieces at the prices you have them...I don't like that 25$ jump when you know you will retain him...look what hes dealing with currently with gio B lol 27$ that's nuts when cooper is 3$ haha
(For anybody wondering, the $15 initial franchise number is for drafted rookies...the $25 is for players who were put on "keeper deals" when we transitioned to a salary/contract league)
Evans is definitely the superior talent, but I think I like Amari's value better at that price point...and maybe this is the year he finally blows up and takes the step into Elite WR1.
I don't know, I'm still torn on this one with all the factors involved. I might be able to get a QB back in return as well to soften the blow of losing Dak - probably Dalton.
FNFL Dynasty League (est. 2006) - 12 teams, tiered PPR, hybrid lineups, full IDP, salary & contract caps
Championships (7): 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021, 2023
QB: Herbert, Young*
RB: CMC, J. Cook, Montgomery, Allgeier*, Miller*
WR: St. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, Douglas*, Mims*, Q. Johnson*
TE: Pitts, McBride, Goedert, Njoku, Likely*
PK: Moody
DT: Barmore
DE: Cooper, Landry
LB: Franklin, Singleton, Lloyd, Landman
S: Bates, James, Bynum, Pitre
* Taxi Squad
2024 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.09, 4.12
Championships (7): 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2021, 2023
QB: Herbert, Young*
RB: CMC, J. Cook, Montgomery, Allgeier*, Miller*
WR: St. Brown, McLaurin, Godwin, Douglas*, Mims*, Q. Johnson*
TE: Pitts, McBride, Goedert, Njoku, Likely*
PK: Moody
DT: Barmore
DE: Cooper, Landry
LB: Franklin, Singleton, Lloyd, Landman
S: Bates, James, Bynum, Pitre
* Taxi Squad
2024 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.12, 4.09, 4.12
Re: Cooper/Dak for Evans
I think I may pass. I like Evans, but the extra $7 your spending on him may help add a fa rb to your roster. I don't think Cooper is that far behind Evans and the $$$you save will be worth it.
2015, 2017, 2022 Champ.
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
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