Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

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Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby Tripwired » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:44 pm

Team in Sig. I've got Zeke, Howard, and Gurley as my primary rb rotation. I have to start 2 rbs. I'm concerned with Gurley and his situation. I know it's a new coaching staff and scheme, and I've been trying to remain positive because I gave up a fair amount a couple of years ago to invest in his talents. That said, I'm just not as sold on his ability to thrive in this current situation as I was last year. I don't think they improved the offense enough. So, am I crazy for even contemplating trying to move him for an early first round RB? Preferably Fournette or perhaps even Mixon? Thoughts?
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
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QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby IR1 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:54 pm

Fournette is the only guy I'd move him for. Sit tight, that's a great threesome!
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RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby The Red Rooster » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:55 pm

No, it's not crazy. I'm fine with targeting LF or Mixon to replace Gurley...but not CMac or Cook. I would def ask for more than just the 1.02 or 1.03 when opening negotiations tho.

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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby Kramer » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:06 pm

I'd rather have Fournette and then I have Mixon and Gurley next about the same. If you can get either and want to cash in your shares, I'd do it for either of these guys.
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QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby Goddard » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:54 pm

Mixon would be my pick.

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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby theWilkman » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:04 pm

I wouldn't blame you for moving him but you are fortunate enough to not HAVE to. I would try to get more, especially if targeting Mixon.
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WR: D. Hopkins, D. Chark, AJ Green, Kirk, J. Brown, Harry, G. Tate, Deebo, Pettis, JJAW, A. Tate
TE: Kittle, C. Herndon
DL: F. Clark, D. Lawrence
LB: B. Wagner, C. Littleton
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby jcc6fd » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:24 pm

I'd move Gurley for Fournette. Not sure I would for Mixon
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QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby Hahaclintondix » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:26 pm

Probably only Fournette for me too. Mixon maybe, Cook not yet, CMC probably never.

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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby Tripwired » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:38 pm

Thanks for the input. I may toss an offer to the guy with the 1.1 and see what happens. I'm not sure if he's high on Gurley or not. Do I need to add anything on my side to sweeten the offer?
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby jcc6fd » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:38 pm

Tripwired wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:38 pm Thanks for the input. I may toss an offer to the guy with the 1.1 and see what happens. I'm not sure if he's high on Gurley or not. Do I need to add anything on my side to sweeten the offer?
You shouldn't have to add to at least pique his interest. I wouldn't end up adding much if he rejects or counters. Maybe a 3rd if I was motivated or a flyer type player.
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RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby M-Dub » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:56 pm

I think Fournette is probably safer, but Mixon has a higher ceiling. Considering you already have Jeremy Hill to mitigate a lot of Mixon's risk, I would try to trade Gurley for the 1.03 with the intention of taking Mixon and be perfectly satisfied if Davis or Lenny falls in your lap. It wouldn't hurt to make the same offer for the 1.01 and/or 1.02, but I wouldn't add much, if anything, to Gurley for any of the top three picks. I like Gurley quite a bit more than any of the other rookies, so if you can't get a top 3 pick, I'd be perfectly content to just hold him. Worst case, if someone reaches on CMac or Cook and one of the top three falls, you can always try to make a draft day trade.
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TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby Tripwired » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:38 am

M-Dub wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:56 pm I think Fournette is probably safer, but Mixon has a higher ceiling. Considering you already have Jeremy Hill to mitigate a lot of Mixon's risk, I would try to trade Gurley for the 1.03 with the intention of taking Mixon and be perfectly satisfied if Davis or Lenny falls in your lap. It wouldn't hurt to make the same offer for the 1.01 and/or 1.02, but I wouldn't add much, if anything, to Gurley for any of the top three picks. I like Gurley quite a bit more than any of the other rookies, so if you can't get a top 3 pick, I'd be perfectly content to just hold him. Worst case, if someone reaches on CMac or Cook and one of the top three falls, you can always try to make a draft day trade.
My cousin has picks 1.2 & 1.3 & is taking either LF or Mixon with the 1.2. He really likes Mixon a lot, and it would be tough to pry that pick from him. I'd definitely have to sweeten the deal. Rookie rbs are a premium in the eyes of this league. However, he did show some interest in Gurley a couple of weeks ago, but I wasn't really thinking of the possibility of moving him yet. Thanks for all the input here. I think I'll try for both the 1.1 & 1.2 & see where things go.
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

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QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby mmass » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:55 am

Love all these Fournette fan boys... let's not forget there is an injury history there and he's in Jacksonville... Mixon easily the best back in the draft but because of something he did two years ago he is deemed character issue. I won't be surprised to see Fouenette bust and Mixon to be the next Le'Veon Bell
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SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
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Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


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Barkley Ja.Williams
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby Tripwired » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:29 pm

Well, just to update, neither guy holding the top two picks had any interest in trading them away. At least not without a massive overpay. There's a crazy rookie rb fever in my league. It grows stronger with each day that we get closer to the draft.
That said, the guy I offered Gurley to for pick 1.2 countered with Gurley for picks 1.3 & 1.7. That would likely net me roughly Cook Or Davis(I'm super deep at wr though and don't believe in cmc), and then perhaps someone like Perine or Hunt at 1.7. Should I consider this at all?
10 team Dynasty league with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 2WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2010
League champ: 2013, 2014, 2015(runner-up), 2016, 2017(runner-up), 2018, 2021
QB- Burrow, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Kamara, Swift, Javonte, Saquon, JK, Akers, E. Mitchell, Penny
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DK, Tee, Diontae, Pittman, Bateman, Rondale
TE- Pitts, Knox, Freiermuth
DST - Chi

10 team PPR Dynasty with 6pts for all TDs. 
QB, 2RB, 3WR, Flex (WRT), TE, K, & DST
League established: 2019
QB- Wilson, Lawrence, Lance
RB- Taylor, Swift, CEH, E. Mitchell, Sermon, AJ Dillon, Stevenson, Penny, Patterson
WR- Jefferson, Chase, DJM, Diontae, OBJ, Palmer, Marshall, Rondale
TE- Hockenson, Irv Smith, Kmet, Trautman
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Re: Gurley vs unproven rookie RBs

Postby dblj1199 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:27 pm

Your team is ridiculously stacked and I'd hold tight. The only thing I may do is if a player starts to slide I may package your late firsts to move up, but I'd most likely hold for now.
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WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
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