Big offer, need some advice - UPDATE
Big offer, need some advice - UPDATE
12 tm PPR - I have a really good team, just missing that top notch RB. My team:
Ryan, Rivers
Miller, Ingram, Gio, Prosise, Hunt
AB, Evans, AJG, Nuk, ARob, Britt
Gronk
Got the following offer:
I give: Miller, ARob, Gronk
I get: M.Gordon, Maclin, Kelce
Now, I do like the upgrade from Miller to Gordon, and Kelce is at least on par with Gronk, if not better just b/c he is safer. But I'm stuck on the ARob-Maclin part of the swap. Main guys on his team:
T.Coleman, M.Gordon, TyMo
T.Hill, Sanders, J.Brown, Marvin Jones,
Kelce, Rudolph, J.Thomas
Is this a fair deal. and am I really getting enough of an upgrade from Miller to Gordon??? If not, what should I counter with?
Ryan, Rivers
Miller, Ingram, Gio, Prosise, Hunt
AB, Evans, AJG, Nuk, ARob, Britt
Gronk
Got the following offer:
I give: Miller, ARob, Gronk
I get: M.Gordon, Maclin, Kelce
Now, I do like the upgrade from Miller to Gordon, and Kelce is at least on par with Gronk, if not better just b/c he is safer. But I'm stuck on the ARob-Maclin part of the swap. Main guys on his team:
T.Coleman, M.Gordon, TyMo
T.Hill, Sanders, J.Brown, Marvin Jones,
Kelce, Rudolph, J.Thomas
Is this a fair deal. and am I really getting enough of an upgrade from Miller to Gordon??? If not, what should I counter with?
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Re: Big offer, need some advice
I don't like the deal, I feel like the Robinson-maclin difference is too large. I'm not a huge fan of Maclin however
10 Team 0.50 PPR 4 Pt. Pass TD SuperFlex League 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1QB/RB/WR/TE 1K
QB: C. Wentz, B. Mayfied, S. Darnold, J. Winston, L. Jackson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon I. Crowell, J. White, N. Chubb, Ty Montgomery, R. Jones
WR: M. Thomas, D. Adams, J. Landry, A. Jeffrey, A. Robinson, C. Davis, M. Williams, C. Godwin, C. Sutton
TE: G. Kittle, A. Hooper
K: Bryant
IR: H. Henry, A. Shaheen
Picks: 2019 1st, 4th, 5th
QB: C. Wentz, B. Mayfied, S. Darnold, J. Winston, L. Jackson
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon I. Crowell, J. White, N. Chubb, Ty Montgomery, R. Jones
WR: M. Thomas, D. Adams, J. Landry, A. Jeffrey, A. Robinson, C. Davis, M. Williams, C. Godwin, C. Sutton
TE: G. Kittle, A. Hooper
K: Bryant
IR: H. Henry, A. Shaheen
Picks: 2019 1st, 4th, 5th
Re: Big offer, need some advice
Not even close
Team 1
12tm, Super-flex, 1PPR, start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/OP
QB: ARod, Wilson, Goff, Winston, Taysom Hill
RB: Cook, Mack, Barber, L. Murray, Ito Smith, Bibbs
WR: ARob, Kupp, Miller(Chi), Agholar, Doctson, Grant, Gordon Z. Jones, Quinn(Wsh), Wilson(Mia)
TE: Reed, Ebron, Andrews, V. Davis, Gates, Herndon
Team 2
12tm, Super-flex, 1PPR, start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/FLEX/OP
QB: Luck, Tanny, Goff
RB: Henry, Drake
WR: Nuk, ARob, Cooper, JuJu, Shepard, Hurns, Lockett, Stewart, Kupp
TE: Doyle, Allen, Clay
Team 3
14tm Super-flex, 1.5PPR and 1.5pts per 10yds for TEs, 1PPR for WRs, .5ppr and .25ppc for RBs. start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/FLEX/OP
QB: Luck, Goff, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Howard, Hines, Kelley, McKinnon, Samuels
WR: Cooks, Ridley, Ross, Callaway, Moncreif, MWilliams, Enunwa, Kupp, Golladay, Kearse, Reynolds
TE: Howard, Hurst
12tm, Super-flex, 1PPR, start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/OP
QB: ARod, Wilson, Goff, Winston, Taysom Hill
RB: Cook, Mack, Barber, L. Murray, Ito Smith, Bibbs
WR: ARob, Kupp, Miller(Chi), Agholar, Doctson, Grant, Gordon Z. Jones, Quinn(Wsh), Wilson(Mia)
TE: Reed, Ebron, Andrews, V. Davis, Gates, Herndon
Team 2
12tm, Super-flex, 1PPR, start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/FLEX/OP
QB: Luck, Tanny, Goff
RB: Henry, Drake
WR: Nuk, ARob, Cooper, JuJu, Shepard, Hurns, Lockett, Stewart, Kupp
TE: Doyle, Allen, Clay
Team 3
14tm Super-flex, 1.5PPR and 1.5pts per 10yds for TEs, 1PPR for WRs, .5ppr and .25ppc for RBs. start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/FLEX/OP
QB: Luck, Goff, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Howard, Hines, Kelley, McKinnon, Samuels
WR: Cooks, Ridley, Ross, Callaway, Moncreif, MWilliams, Enunwa, Kupp, Golladay, Kearse, Reynolds
TE: Howard, Hurst
Re: Big offer, need some advice
I don't think it's terrible, but I'd try to get the other side to add a pick or two.
Re: Big offer, need some advice
Kelce is worth more than Gronk now but it's probably marginal and a preference. Obviously M Gordon is a big upgrade from Miller but I agree that the gap between Arob and Maclin is larger. Maybe if you swap out Miller with Ingram? I still think the value is on the Arob side, but I like your team more after the trade if you keep Miller and sub in Ingram
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
Re: Big offer, need some advice
I'd try to get him to add a pick, but with your wr's you could take the hit to upgrade rb and long term at te
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
Re: Big offer, need some advice
Arob is worth more than Melvin. Miller is worth more than Maclin. Gronk and Kelce are pretty even. I'd want at least a 1st added to the other side to consider this.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
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Re: Big offer, need some advice
Switch Miller to Ingram and I think this is closer...get Maclin to Sanders and it's an easy, and possibly a no from them
Re: Big offer, need some advice
I sent that exact offer a few weeks ago, with Ingram instead of Miller. I may try to swap 1sts and 2nd next year and see what happens...Generic Username wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:09 pm Switch Miller to Ingram and I think this is closer...get Maclin to Sanders and it's an easy, and possibly a no from them
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Re: Big offer, need some advice
I like it if you switched out maclin with john brown , he might go for that
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I'm not a Brown fanSlimDikinz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:21 pm I like it if you switched out maclin with john brown , he might go for that
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Re: Big offer, need some advice
Then ask for tevin Coleman , maclin is only for your team in a win now situation. Maybe 2 years left max, Allen rob is still very young
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Re: Big offer, need some advice
I probably wouldn't accept as is. Kelce is the only piece on that side I like. I'm not against trading ARob, though. I'm not convinced he's going to see the targets he's seen early in his career. Pass attempts will go down with the addition of Fournette, and a healthy Hurns and Lee will eat into Robinson's production as well. Nick Whalen had a really interesting thread along these lines on Twitter a few days ago.
12 Team Superflex IDP 6pt PassTD PPR: 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SF, 2 Flex(W/T/R), 1 DL/LB/DB
2017-18 Champion
QB:Stafford, Brissett, Minshew, Taylor, Mullens
RB: K. Johnson, D. Henderson, J. Hill, T. Pollard, B. Scarbrough
WR: D. Hopkins, D. Chark, AJ Green, Kirk, J. Brown, Harry, G. Tate, Deebo, Pettis, JJAW, A. Tate
TE: Kittle, C. Herndon
DL: F. Clark, D. Lawrence
LB: B. Wagner, C. Littleton
DB: B. Baker
1.04, 1.05, 2.06, 2.10, 2.12
2017-18 Champion
QB:Stafford, Brissett, Minshew, Taylor, Mullens
RB: K. Johnson, D. Henderson, J. Hill, T. Pollard, B. Scarbrough
WR: D. Hopkins, D. Chark, AJ Green, Kirk, J. Brown, Harry, G. Tate, Deebo, Pettis, JJAW, A. Tate
TE: Kittle, C. Herndon
DL: F. Clark, D. Lawrence
LB: B. Wagner, C. Littleton
DB: B. Baker
1.04, 1.05, 2.06, 2.10, 2.12
Re: Big offer, need some advice
No way. Hold
12 team 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 te 1 flex
Qb Wilson, Bortles
Rb Howard, Kerryon Johnson, Duke Johnson, ty Montgomery
Wr Odell, Cooper, Evans, Alshon, Curtis Samuel
TE Jonnu Smith, George kittle, Vance McDonald, Eifert
Qb Wilson, Bortles
Rb Howard, Kerryon Johnson, Duke Johnson, ty Montgomery
Wr Odell, Cooper, Evans, Alshon, Curtis Samuel
TE Jonnu Smith, George kittle, Vance McDonald, Eifert
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Re: Big offer, need some advice
Start small with ARob for Melvin+. See if he'll add a 1st. Try tossing a 2nd if it helps.
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