12-TM, PPR
I give: Keenan Allen
I get: T. Pryor + 18' 1st
Kicker being: the 2018 'should' be a top 3 (w/ the possibility of 1) pick if I were to guess. It's a Start-up, but his team is very young and not much depth is there. Of course, knowing FF he would finish first and I'd be picking 1.12.
Is this a gamble others would take, or a hard pass? I'd be looking at Pryor, Maclin, Garçon, Decker, Mike Wallace, Chris Conley (and a few Rookie WRs not ready to contribute) as my WR2/3 after Mike Evans.
Maybe I'm too focused on the top 2 RBs coming out next year, so any help is appreciated!
Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
You have some older guys at WR, so I'd take Pryor and the 1st if you think its gonna be that high. I just don't know if Keenan will ever stay healthy. Plus he has more competition for targets now as well.
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QB: ARod, Wilson, Goff, Winston, Taysom Hill
RB: Cook, Mack, Barber, L. Murray, Ito Smith, Bibbs
WR: ARob, Kupp, Miller(Chi), Agholar, Doctson, Grant, Gordon Z. Jones, Quinn(Wsh), Wilson(Mia)
TE: Reed, Ebron, Andrews, V. Davis, Gates, Herndon
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QB: Luck, Tanny, Goff
RB: Henry, Drake
WR: Nuk, ARob, Cooper, JuJu, Shepard, Hurns, Lockett, Stewart, Kupp
TE: Doyle, Allen, Clay
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QB: Luck, Goff, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Howard, Hines, Kelley, McKinnon, Samuels
WR: Cooks, Ridley, Ross, Callaway, Moncreif, MWilliams, Enunwa, Kupp, Golladay, Kearse, Reynolds
TE: Howard, Hurst
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QB: ARod, Wilson, Goff, Winston, Taysom Hill
RB: Cook, Mack, Barber, L. Murray, Ito Smith, Bibbs
WR: ARob, Kupp, Miller(Chi), Agholar, Doctson, Grant, Gordon Z. Jones, Quinn(Wsh), Wilson(Mia)
TE: Reed, Ebron, Andrews, V. Davis, Gates, Herndon
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12tm, Super-flex, 1PPR, start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/FLEX/OP
QB: Luck, Tanny, Goff
RB: Henry, Drake
WR: Nuk, ARob, Cooper, JuJu, Shepard, Hurns, Lockett, Stewart, Kupp
TE: Doyle, Allen, Clay
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QB: Luck, Goff, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Howard, Hines, Kelley, McKinnon, Samuels
WR: Cooks, Ridley, Ross, Callaway, Moncreif, MWilliams, Enunwa, Kupp, Golladay, Kearse, Reynolds
TE: Howard, Hurst
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Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
I'd do the deal. I love keenan but that's a good deal
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qb: brees, wilson, lamar jackson
Rb: mccaffrey, hunt, kamara, freeman, ware, c.j anderson, turbin
wr: evans, allen, ty hill, Ross, pettis, Anthony miller, calloway, sanu
Te: ertz, kroft, njoku
Def: eagles
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Qb: luck, dak, bortles
Rb: cook, miller, ingram, tevin coleman, lat murray, burkhead, clement, wilkins
Wr: Aj green, evans, OBJ, juju smith, lockett, moncrief, beasly
Te: ertz, ebron
Def: eagles
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Rb: mccaffrey, hunt, kamara, freeman, ware, c.j anderson, turbin
wr: evans, allen, ty hill, Ross, pettis, Anthony miller, calloway, sanu
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Def: eagles
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Rb: cook, miller, ingram, tevin coleman, lat murray, burkhead, clement, wilkins
Wr: Aj green, evans, OBJ, juju smith, lockett, moncrief, beasly
Te: ertz, ebron
Def: eagles
Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
If that 1st is really top 3, then I'd do it. Otherwise, I'd rather keep Allen.
Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
Ditto
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
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RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
Excellent, thanks to all. I think I'll roll the dice on this one, and hope it doesn't come back to bite me, haha.
Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
I'd personally do that deal. I think Pryor could have a good season and the chance at getting either Barkley or Guice next year is to much to pass on
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1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 FLEX
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RB-Ezekiel Elliot, Jeremy McNichols Elijah McGuire, Matt Breida
WR-Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins Corey Coleman, Donte Moncreif Braxton Miller, Marquis Lee, Calvin Johnson
TE-David Njoku Vance McDonald, Bucky Hodges, Dwayne Allen, Jared Cook, Adam Shaheen, Eric Swoope
1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 2 FLEX
QB-Jared Goff Tom Savage, Jay Cutler, Jimmy Garoppolo
RB-Ezekiel Elliot, Jeremy McNichols Elijah McGuire, Matt Breida
WR-Amari Cooper, Sammy Watkins Corey Coleman, Donte Moncreif Braxton Miller, Marquis Lee, Calvin Johnson
TE-David Njoku Vance McDonald, Bucky Hodges, Dwayne Allen, Jared Cook, Adam Shaheen, Eric Swoope
Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
Pryor is likely to score as well as Keenan. Free 1st round pick. Easy peasy.
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x2
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
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Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
What is it that makes Pryor such a slam dunk? What am I missing here? Didn't talent starved Cleveland let him walk?
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QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
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RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
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RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
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RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
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TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
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(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
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RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
Doesn't the same question apply to Keenan? Full season of production from Pryor in 2016 at a new position vs. half season (2015) from Keenan...The.Big.Spank wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:10 am What is it that makes Pryor such a slam dunk? What am I missing here?
"Let him walk" also implies that the Browns held all the cards in determining his return to Cleveland.
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Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
Ya, I'd b all over that deal! Instant accept...however the greedy in me would try to get another pick of some sort.
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RB - J. Hill, L. Murray, D. Cook, J. Mixon, M. Breida (TS)
WR - A. Cooper, J. Nelson, B. Cooks, C. Meredith, C. Coleman, Sharpe, Treadwell (TS), M. Williams (TS)
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TE - Eifert, Henry, Tye
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Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
Don't forget the 3 year gap in their age though. Pryor is already 28 and we know what happens to WR's values once they get in their late 20s. I think people forget how old Pryor is since last year felt like his rookie season.skip wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:13 amDoesn't the same question apply to Keenan? Full season of production from Pryor in 2016 at a new position vs. half season (2015) from Keenan...The.Big.Spank wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:10 am What is it that makes Pryor such a slam dunk? What am I missing here?
"Let him walk" also implies that the Browns held all the cards in determining his return to Cleveland.
Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
I'm not going to overvalue age like some do. This is why so many people are buying into a guy like Moncrief. The idea that age is some magical thing that as long as someone is young they will play better, carry value longer, etc. Sure... people will continue to overvalue age. But there is a point where the player has to produce. This isn't a straight up trade. The 1st round pick makes this a slam dunk in favor of the Pryor side.
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Re: Pryor + 18' 1st for Keenan Allen
I'm not disagreeing with you, I said myself that I would take the Pryor side if the 1st indeed was early. Just pointing out, whether fair or not, that player's values take hits due to age. Also, Moncrief shouldn't be compared to Allen because Allen is actually productive when on the field.skip wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:13 amI'm not going to overvalue age like some do. This is why so many people are buying into a guy like Moncrief. The idea that age is some magical thing that as long as someone is young they will play better, carry value longer, etc. Sure... people will continue to overvalue age. But there is a point where the player has to produce. This isn't a straight up trade. The 1st round pick makes this a slam dunk in favor of the Pryor side.
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