What are your thoughts on the proposed trade below? I'm curious at what the DLF community thinks.
I Give: Kelvin Benjamin & Robert Turbin
I Get: Josh Doctson, 2018 3rd, & 2018 4th
KB+ OR Doctson +?
KB+ OR Doctson +?
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
Doctson side for me.
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
Doctson. Was the trade proposed to you? If so, maybe you can get some more value on the pick side (like a 2018 2nd instead a 3rd and a 4th).
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
I am personally not a big fan of either. Was never a Kelvin guy even after his big year and was never a Doctson guy due to his dominant college years being when he was already a lot older then his competition. That said I think I prefer Doctson to Kelvin and I'll def take those picks over Turbin.
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
Basically a pick em but we've seen Benjamin. His floor seems to be 1,000 yards and 8 TDs. He's under appreciated but he doesn't have a huge ceiling.
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
Agreed. It's a slam dunk for Doctson imo if you can drop Turbin and make it KB for Doctson and a 2nd.smoppelpoppel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:32 am Doctson. Was the trade proposed to you? If so, maybe you can get some more value on the pick side (like a 2018 2nd instead a 3rd and a 4th).
KB is very underrated when you look at his stats at the end of the season as a whole. But during the season, he is maddening to own. He is just too inconsistent for me. He will have a monster game and then follow that up with 2 or 3 terrible outings.
Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
^This. Was thinking the exact same thing.smoppelpoppel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:32 am Doctson. Was the trade proposed to you? If so, maybe you can get some more value on the pick side (like a 2018 2nd instead a 3rd and a 4th).
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
OP, if decide to try this, be careful how you phrase it. There are some people who don't this at all. They'll shut down negotiations if you try.smoppelpoppel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:32 am Doctson. Was the trade proposed to you? If so, maybe you can get some more value on the pick side (like a 2018 2nd instead a 3rd and a 4th).
FKC, is this for your sig league?
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
This trade basically comes down to KB for Doctson. The picks and Turbin are non-factors.
With that said, i'm not all that surprised with the results, but I would actually take KB here. KB is pretty underwhelming but still the WR1 on his team and has shown he can at least put up reasonable numbers. Doctson hasn't done jack bleep, is going to be 25 years old at the end of the season, and is looking to be the fourth or fifth option at best in the Washington passing attack. Sure, Doctson has more upside, but at the end of the day i'm going with the guy who has actually proven he can produce.
With that said, i'm not all that surprised with the results, but I would actually take KB here. KB is pretty underwhelming but still the WR1 on his team and has shown he can at least put up reasonable numbers. Doctson hasn't done jack bleep, is going to be 25 years old at the end of the season, and is looking to be the fourth or fifth option at best in the Washington passing attack. Sure, Doctson has more upside, but at the end of the day i'm going with the guy who has actually proven he can produce.
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
X2eraldo_coil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:09 pm This trade basically comes down to KB for Doctson. The picks and Turbin are non-factors.
With that said, i'm not all that surprised with the results, but I would actually take KB here. KB is pretty underwhelming but still the WR1 on his team and has shown he can at least put up reasonable numbers. Doctson hasn't done jack bleep, is going to be 25 years old at the end of the season, and is looking to be the fourth or fifth option at best in the Washington passing attack. Sure, Doctson has more upside, but at the end of the day i'm going with the guy who has actually proven he can produce.
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
Agreed and we'll put.eraldo_coil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:09 pm This trade basically comes down to KB for Doctson. The picks and Turbin are non-factors.
With that said, i'm not all that surprised with the results, but I would actually take KB here. KB is pretty underwhelming but still the WR1 on his team and has shown he can at least put up reasonable numbers. Doctson hasn't done jack bleep, is going to be 25 years old at the end of the season, and is looking to be the fourth or fifth option at best in the Washington passing attack. Sure, Doctson has more upside, but at the end of the day i'm going with the guy who has actually proven he can produce.
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
Agreed. People love to chase the unknown.eraldo_coil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:09 pm This trade basically comes down to KB for Doctson. The picks and Turbin are non-factors.
With that said, i'm not all that surprised with the results, but I would actually take KB here. KB is pretty underwhelming but still the WR1 on his team and has shown he can at least put up reasonable numbers. Doctson hasn't done jack bleep, is going to be 25 years old at the end of the season, and is looking to be the fourth or fifth option at best in the Washington passing attack. Sure, Doctson has more upside, but at the end of the day i'm going with the guy who has actually proven he can produce.
Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
I actually have both & would dangle Doctson in a trade way before KB. I also think KB's going to have something to prove this season, "Hungry like the wolf" Darun Darun!
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Re: KB+ OR Doctson +?
I dont like either one, but KB has the clearer path to fantasy points
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