TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

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Njoku or Ross in TE Premium?

Ross + 2018 4th
3
10%
Njoku + 2018 2nd
27
90%
 
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TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby harveyd » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:51 am

Hey all,

I have a chance to swap Ross for Njoku in a TE Premium league (1.5 PPR TE vs 1.0 PPR WR) while picking up an extra draft pick upgrade - how do you feel about the value in this trade and do you think it's a good fit for my team?
Thanks in advance everyone!

Give:
John Ross
2018 4th

Get:
David Njoku
2018 2nd

Full league and team details below:
12 Teams, tiered ppr (0.5 RB / 1.0 WR / 1.5 TE), start 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/FLEX
D. Brees, M. Ryan
M. Gordon, J. Ajayi, D. Murray, D. Martin, F. Gore, J. Stewart, A. Jones, R. Burkhead, T. Cohen
D. Bryant, TY Hilton, A. Jeffrey, B. Marshall, E. Sanders, J. Ross, B. Perriman, M. Wallace, E. Decker, C. Kupp
D. Walker, CJ Fiedorowicz, Z. Miller, A. Gates, A. Shaheen, J. Smith

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby 0crush83 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:57 am

Give me Njoku and the 2nd. While I don't mind Ross I just don't trust him to be consistent. So I'd prefer to take the risk and hope Njoku becomes something, love his talent. Plus the 2nd makes it pretty easy for me.
12 team PPR - QB/2RB/2WR/TE/FLEX/K/DEF
QB- Ryan, Carr
RB- Bell, Hyde, Coleman, Gio, Breida, Thompson
WR- OBJ, AB, Nuk, M. Thomas, Parker, Treadwell, Godwin
TE- Kelce, Engram
D- Eagles, Rams
IR - DJ

12 team PPR - QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Seimian, Bridgewater, McCown
RB- Bell, Freeman, Gordon, Ingram, Gore, Conner
WR- Julio, Nuk, KA, Landry, Hilton, Cooks, DT, Maclin, R. Matthews, Boyd
TE- Kelce, Rudolph, James, Everett, ASJ

12 team PPR- 1QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Siemian
RB- Bell, Gurley, Carson, Conner, Gallman, Williams
WR- Nuk, Baldwin, Jordy, DT, Crabtree, Crowder, Decker, Ross, Wallace, Richardson, Higgins, Taylor
TE- Kelce, Maxx

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby ADrunkenCaveman » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:58 am

I would do the trade.
I am skeptical of Ross. I mean the guy got hurt running a 40 without pads or defense lol.
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S: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1K, 1DEF

QBs: Brady, Flacco
RBs: Zeke, D Murray, McKinnon, Powell
WRs: Hopkins, Cooks, J Nelson, Baldwin, R Matthews, Quick
TEs: Reed, Rudolph, Davis
K: Dawson
DEF: CAR, BAL

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16 team .5PPR League
S: 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 3FLEX

QBs: Wilson, Keenum, Flacco
RBs: McCoy, Howard, McKinnon, B Allen, Woodhead
WRs: Evans, Julio, Tate, Smith
TEs: Rudolph, Clay

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16 team .5PPR Full IDP League
S: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 3FLEX

QBs: Brees, Wentz, Beathard
RBs: Murray, Miller, Ingram, Gore, Riddick
WRs: AB, Hilton, Dez, Tate, Lafell, Inman, Rodgers, Kearse
TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
DEs: Dunlap, Hicks, Wolf, Robison
LBs: Kirksey, Williams, Foster, Hicks, Perryman, Posluszny, Alexander, Walker, Morgan
CBs: Alford, Slay, Harris, Waynes, Randall, Bradberry, Trufant
Ss: Vaccaro, Mathieu, Church, Evans, Sendejo

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby Tyrober » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:45 am

Could argue Njoku over Ross in this setup without the picks. Easy yes imo

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby moishetreats » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:45 am

IMO, Njoku > Ross in a NON-TE-premium league...
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby BradysBunch » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:46 am

moishetreats wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:45 am IMO, Njoku > Ross in a NON-TE-premium league...
my thoughts exactly
9(yes 9) team / 28 man rosters
15/17/19/21 Champ
SF/PPR
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/TLAW/Fields
N. Harris/J. Williams/Gibbs/CEH/A. Jones/Hubbard/Haskins/Ingram
Kupp/Jefferson/Chase/Lamb/Hopkins/MT/Watson/Dotson/
Kelce/Hurst

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby skip » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:55 am

BradysBunch wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:46 am
moishetreats wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:45 am IMO, Njoku > Ross in a NON-TE-premium league...
my thoughts exactly
I agree with this. Ross is my "most likely to bust" pick of this rookie class and I would avoid him completely.
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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby harveyd » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:05 am

thanks guys, i pulled the trigger! appreciate all the feedback

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby Goddard » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:42 am

Agree that I'd rather have Njoku over Ross straight up, even if it wasn't TE premium. Throw in the 2nd, this is a no brainer.

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby TheRookiePro » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:07 am

Just to play devil's advocate, chances are Ross will outscore Njoku by a significant margin this year and possibly his first 3-5 years.

To be clear I voted Njoku&2nd because Njoku could be a stud TE for 10+ years. BUT he's about to turn 21 and the majority of rookie TEs are a combination of savings bonds and new cars; take years for the investment to mature, and once you drive them off the lot their value goes down 10%..
10 Team PPR, 25 man roster(1st and 2nd year player PS option for $20), QB, 2 RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX (RB,WR,TE), K, DEF.

QB-Luck, A. Smith, Fitzpatrick
RB-Gurley, M. Gordon, Jeff Wilson, Tevin Coleman,T. Montgomery, John Kelly, Justin Davis
WR-K. Allen, T. Hill, Josh Gordon, Golladay, Fitzgerald, S. Watkins, J. Reynolds, Enunwa,
TE-Burton, Ebron, Walker
K-Gostkowski
Defense-Vikings, Jaguars, Ravens

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby moishetreats » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:44 am

TheRookiePro wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:07 am Just to play devil's advocate, chances are Ross will outscore Njoku by a significant margin this year and possibly his first 3-5 years.

To be clear I voted Njoku&2nd because Njoku could be a stud TE for 10+ years. BUT he's about to turn 21 and the majority of rookie TEs are a combination of savings bonds and new cars; take years for the investment to mature, and once you drive them off the lot their value goes down 10%..
Just to play devil's advocate to this :twisted:, you might be correct, but it doesn't matter. Ross won't realistically be starting for OP's team in the next handful of years. By then, Njoku will be the more productive player.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby Goddard » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:50 am

moishetreats wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:44 am
TheRookiePro wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:07 am Just to play devil's advocate, chances are Ross will outscore Njoku by a significant margin this year and possibly his first 3-5 years.

To be clear I voted Njoku&2nd because Njoku could be a stud TE for 10+ years. BUT he's about to turn 21 and the majority of rookie TEs are a combination of savings bonds and new cars; take years for the investment to mature, and once you drive them off the lot their value goes down 10%..
Just to play devil's advocate to this :twisted:, you might be correct, but it doesn't matter. Ross won't realistically be starting for OP's team in the next handful of years. By then, Njoku will be the more productive player.
I would hope Njoku doesn't take 5 years to develop.

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby Generic Username » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:55 am

moishetreats wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:44 am
TheRookiePro wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:07 am Just to play devil's advocate, chances are Ross will outscore Njoku by a significant margin this year and possibly his first 3-5 years.

To be clear I voted Njoku&2nd because Njoku could be a stud TE for 10+ years. BUT he's about to turn 21 and the majority of rookie TEs are a combination of savings bonds and new cars; take years for the investment to mature, and once you drive them off the lot their value goes down 10%..
Just to play devil's advocate to this :twisted:, you might be correct, but it doesn't matter. Ross won't realistically be starting for OP's team in the next handful of years. By then, Njoku will be the more productive player.
And to play Keanu Reeves, that 2nd could just as well end up acquiring a talent better than Ross

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby TheRookiePro » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:58 am

Yea? Well Njoku's taller.
10 Team PPR, 25 man roster(1st and 2nd year player PS option for $20), QB, 2 RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX (RB,WR,TE), K, DEF.

QB-Luck, A. Smith, Fitzpatrick
RB-Gurley, M. Gordon, Jeff Wilson, Tevin Coleman,T. Montgomery, John Kelly, Justin Davis
WR-K. Allen, T. Hill, Josh Gordon, Golladay, Fitzgerald, S. Watkins, J. Reynolds, Enunwa,
TE-Burton, Ebron, Walker
K-Gostkowski
Defense-Vikings, Jaguars, Ravens

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Re: TE Premium: Njoku vs Ross

Postby TheRookiePro » Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:59 am

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10 Team PPR, 25 man roster(1st and 2nd year player PS option for $20), QB, 2 RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX (RB,WR,TE), K, DEF.

QB-Luck, A. Smith, Fitzpatrick
RB-Gurley, M. Gordon, Jeff Wilson, Tevin Coleman,T. Montgomery, John Kelly, Justin Davis
WR-K. Allen, T. Hill, Josh Gordon, Golladay, Fitzgerald, S. Watkins, J. Reynolds, Enunwa,
TE-Burton, Ebron, Walker
K-Gostkowski
Defense-Vikings, Jaguars, Ravens


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