Cooper value

[jwb32]

Can someone sell me on Amari Cooper as an elite fantasy asset? He had 300 total yards over final 8 games including wild card game. Yet most dynasty rankings have him in top 10. What am I missing?

[JoshGordonsDealer]

22, great QB, never had fewer than 1k yards, no injury or character concerns, seems to be a hard worker.

Which WRs do you put above him? OBJ and Evans, sure. Julio and AB are understandable. At worst he's WR5, which makes him a top 10 asset.

[Shcritters]

Topped 1k yards as a rookie with a rookie QB.
2016 First 8 games: 52-787-2 (full year run-rate would be 104-1574-4)
2016 full year stat line: 82-1149-5 (significantly dropped 2nd half of year)

He's 2 years in the league, on a high powered offense with an up-and-coming QB, he's turning 23 this summer and has no character concerns. Who would you rank above him?

[joshuawrobbins]

I have him as my third wideout only behind Evans and OBJ. For the reason stated above. He hasn't even hit his "third year breakout" WR tend to breakout their third year in the league. He's showed constant production from day 1. Crabtree will not be in the equation much longer, and Coopers TD will increase. Two 1,000 yard seasons and his best is yet to come, sign me up for that

[Goddard]

He might be slightly overrated based on production, but he's still a stud and very young.

[0crush83]

He may not have elite upside but his stats tell it all. And he's young with a solid QB. I think he's slightly overrated because I think he's really good, not elite.

[Cameron Giles]

He's really good at football, really young and really productive. Aside from that, he sucks.

[sugbear65]

I don't mean this as a slight, but is this your first year of dynasty? This topic smells a little of redraft mentality. To answer your first question, no that's a decision you'll have to make for yourself. To answer your second question, i am guessing a general understanding of how dynasty football rankings work.

[jwb32]

Yes it is my first year.....I recently took over an orphan. And I do get the difference between redraft and dynasty rankings. The reason for my post is I'm working a deal to give Julio for Cooper + 2018 1st (top 3). On paper it seems like a no-brainer.....but it's Julio, so it's tough to pull that trigger. I get the age difference, but Julio is only 28. He could perform at this level for 4-5 more years. So I wanted some opinions on just how good Cooper might become. Appreciate the feedback......and all the other responses.

[Martpe]

22, great QB, never had fewer than 1k yards, no injury or character concerns, seems to be a hard worker.

Which WRs do you put above him? OBJ and Evans, sure. Julio and AB are understandable. At worst he's WR5, which makes him a top 10 asset.

This is about my thinking. That said, in leagues were I compete, I would not necessarily feel good about having him as my top WR right now. So he may be more a value that production play at this early stage in his career.

[M-Dub]

22, great QB, never had fewer than 1k yards, no injury or character concerns, seems to be a hard worker.

Which WRs do you put above him? OBJ and Evans, sure. Julio and AB are understandable. At worst he's WR5, which makes him a top 10 asset.

In addition to the four you listed, I'd take Nuk or ARob over him pretty easily. Probably Sammy too, but I realize I'm in the minority there. I think all three have a much higher ceiling, and the first two have already proved it.

If I was in serious win-now mode, I'd have to think long and hard before I gave up someone like Dez or AJG for him. I prefer Cooper in a vacuum due to age, but I wouldn't fault a strong contender for standing pat with a proven stud.

I'm not anti-Cooper. I think he's a really good player with a safe, high floor. I just think he's a little overpriced, based on both what he's done so far and what can reasonably be expected from him in the future. I just don't see him as a perennial elite WR1. He might have a top 5-6 WR season or two in him, but I don't see him just setting up residence there for 4-5 years like Julio, AB or Dez. For what it costs to acquire Cooper, I'd rather go after Landry and get a comparable floor and ceiling for about half the price.

[collbey]

I get the reluctance to trade Julio but Cooper + 2018 1st is great value for him.

[Honey Badgers]

22, great QB, never had fewer than 1k yards, no injury or character concerns, seems to be a hard worker.

Which WRs do you put above him? OBJ and Evans, sure. Julio and AB are understandable. At worst he's WR5, which makes him a top 10 asset.

In addition to the four you listed, I'd take Nuk or ARob over him pretty easily. Probably Sammy too, but I realize I'm in the minority there. I think all three have a much higher ceiling, and the first two have already proved it.

If I was in serious win-now mode, I'd have to think long and hard before I gave up someone like Dez or AJG for him. I prefer Cooper in a vacuum due to age, but I wouldn't fault a strong contender for standing pat with a proven stud.

I'm not anti-Cooper. I think he's a really good player with a safe, high floor. I just think he's a little overpriced, based on both what he's done so far and what can reasonably be expected from him in the future. I just don't see him as a perennial elite WR1. He might have a top 5-6 WR season or two in him, but I don't see him just setting up residence there for 4-5 years like Julio, AB or Dez. For what it costs to acquire Cooper, I'd rather go after Landry and get a comparable floor and ceiling for about half the price.

I agree with this...except for taking Sammy

[Vcize]

22, great QB, never had fewer than 1k yards, no injury or character concerns, seems to be a hard worker.

Which WRs do you put above him? OBJ and Evans, sure. Julio and AB are understandable. At worst he's WR5, which makes him a top 10 asset.

In addition to the four you listed, I'd take Nuk or ARob over him pretty easily. Probably Sammy too, but I realize I'm in the minority there. I think all three have a much higher ceiling, and the first two have already proved it.

If I was in serious win-now mode, I'd have to think long and hard before I gave up someone like Dez or AJG for him. I prefer Cooper in a vacuum due to age, but I wouldn't fault a strong contender for standing pat with a proven stud.

I'm not anti-Cooper. I think he's a really good player with a safe, high floor. I just think he's a little overpriced, based on both what he's done so far and what can reasonably be expected from him in the future. I just don't see him as a perennial elite WR1. He might have a top 5-6 WR season or two in him, but I don't see him just setting up residence there for 4-5 years like Julio, AB or Dez. For what it costs to acquire Cooper, I'd rather go after Landry and get a comparable floor and ceiling for about half the price.

Cooper's dropoff last year started the same week he showed up on the injury report. I think that's a fairly easy dot to connect. When he was healthy last year he was a monster.

Nuk and ARob may have upside, but they have massive risk as well. When guys stink while playing completely healthy it's much more worrisome to me than a half season stat dip that lines up with an injury.

[Knox Steel Curtain]

I like him as a top 10 dynasty receiver being overvalued in dynasty rankings. The guy is not an elite redzone option. Touchdowns are important. No way I put him over Aj or Julio.