Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.
AndrewS
Starter
Starter
Posts: 504
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:29 am

Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby AndrewS » Thu May 25, 2017 2:31 pm

Is Alshon (and his injury history) worth a 2018 late first (9-12) and a 2019 mid-late first (6-12)? For team 1 in my sig i'm tempted to add him to AB/MT/Cooks but I also like that i currently have multiple first round picks the next two years. What do the experts say?!!!
Team 1 - 12 Team Half PPR
Start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 1 D/ST
Total Starters = 10
Russel Wilson, Eli Manning
Bell, Howard, Hyde, J Williams, Smallwood, A Jones, J Allen, D Washington
M Thomas, B Cooks, D Hopkins, A Jeffery, Meredith, Boyd, Caroo, Smelter, T Benjamin, C Hansen
Ebron, Butt, V McDonald, G Kittle
2018 1, 1, 3, 4 2019 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4

Team 2 - 12 Team Half PPR
Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 D/ST, 1 K
Total Starters = 10
Brees, Bortles, Goff, Fitzpatrick
D Freeman, L Miller, JStew, CJ Anderson, J Hill, J Williams
TY Hilton, K Allen, A Thielen, Tate, Stills, Hogan, Wheaton, Hansen
Graham, Walker, Z Miller

Team 3 - 12 Team Full PPR
Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 4 FLEX (RB/WR/TE)
Total Starters = 8
A Rodgers
Ingram, Ware, Martin, L Murray, AP, Artis-Payne, Quizz Rodgers, D Lewis, R Jennings, Josh Ferguson
AJ Green, J Landry, D Baldwin, E Decker, J Brown, R Cobb, J Janis, T Smith
J Reed, E Ebron, E Swoope, J Heuerman

jwb32
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3827
Joined: Wed May 10, 2017 8:11 am

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby jwb32 » Thu May 25, 2017 2:45 pm

I'd pull the trigger. Sure, there is some injury risk but he's still in his prime (only 27). I take the gamble that he stays mostly healthy and produces high WR2 numbers for the next 3-4 years.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

Novacane
All Pro
All Pro
Posts: 1984
Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:43 am

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby Novacane » Thu May 25, 2017 2:47 pm

That would be a steal for alshon. Has this been offered or are you thinking of offering? I would be shocked to see an alshon owner let him go for a 2018 and 2019 first.

joshuawrobbins
Starter
Starter
Posts: 532
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:29 pm

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby joshuawrobbins » Thu May 25, 2017 2:55 pm

I doubt you can get him that cheap. But if you can I definitely would be all over that

User avatar
Goddard
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 27771
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:21 am

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby Goddard » Thu May 25, 2017 3:06 pm

I wouldn't give up Alshon for that, but if you're buying, then yes.

Generic Username
All Pro
All Pro
Posts: 1719
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:14 pm

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby Generic Username » Thu May 25, 2017 3:13 pm

You have no RBs in a start 2 format...unless you haven't updated sig to include high profile rookie RBs from this year, I think you'd be better served keeping your picks and selling AB at some point before season's end

Cabana
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 343
Joined: Wed May 11, 2016 11:01 am
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby Cabana » Thu May 25, 2017 3:34 pm

Give me Alshon easily
Ducks League
12-team non-PPR 28-roster 1QB, 2-3RB, 2-3WR, 1TE, 1DL. 1LB, 1DB, 1K http://fantasy.nfl.com/league/3951353

Honey Badgers
Captain
Captain
Posts: 935
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:03 am

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby Honey Badgers » Thu May 25, 2017 3:36 pm

Alshon all day!
Dynasty League 12 Team .5 PPR
20 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 FLEX (RB,WR,TE)
Wilson
Gordon, CMC Freeman, Ekeler, J. Williams
OBJ, Nuk, K. Allen, Golladay, Fitz Funchess, Cobb, Isabella, McLaurin, Cain
Kelce McDonald, Doyle, Waller


Empire League 12 Team .5 PPR

2019 Champion
21 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 FLEX (RB,WR,TE)
Rivers, Big Ben
Zeke, Cook, Connor, A. Jones D. Williams, Ballage, M. Brown
Nuk, M. Thomas, AJG, Alshon A-Rob, Sammy, Crowder, Gallup
Njoku Henry, Hooper, Waller
20 picks-2 1sts, 2 2nds

Empire League 12 Team .5 PPR
21 Man Rosters, 5 IR spots
Start, QB, 2RB, 3 WR, TE, 2 FLEX, 1 Superflex, Def
Rodgers, Cam Wilson
Miller, AP A. Jones, Gore, McGuire
Evans, OBJ, A-Rob, Boyd, Sutton Crowder, Sanu, Sutton, Grant, Kearse, C0Patt
Burton Butt, Uzomah
Jacksonville

IR1
Hall of Fame
Hall of Fame
Posts: 4708
Joined: Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:16 am

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby IR1 » Thu May 25, 2017 4:28 pm

Alshon side for me
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

Sgtpsych
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 361
Joined: Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:34 pm

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby Sgtpsych » Thu May 25, 2017 4:46 pm

The future firsts are too late.
Team 1-
12 team standard dynasty 6 pt - td, .1 per rushing yd, .1 per receiving yd. .04 per passing yd , 24 player roster
1 qb, 2 RB, 2 wr, 1 TE, 2 flex
QB-Russell Wilson, Tom Brady
RB-Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Kareem Hunt,Thomas Rawls,Jerick McKinnon, Chris Carson, TJ Yeldon, Aaron Jones
WR-OBJ, AJG, NUK, ARob, Mike Williams, Josh Gordon, Marqise Lee, Willie Snead
TE- Jimmy Graham, Coby Fleener, George Kittle, Tyler Kroft
K- Harrison Butker
D-Carolina Panthers, Jags
2018 1st and 4th

Team 2-
QB- Winston, Prescott, Flacco
RB- Freeman, Fournette, Montgomery, Murray, Yeldon, Hightower, Washington, Procise, Lacy, Starks, Conner
WR- NUK, Doctson, Ross, Aghlor, Treadwell
TE - Engram, Davis
D- Giants,Chiefs
K- Gostkowski

User avatar
lukkynumber13
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 13531
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 2:41 pm

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu May 25, 2017 5:25 pm

He's worth 2 random 1sts in the 2017 class. He's definitely worth an 18 & a 19.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
/
TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
/
TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA

jwint7910
Starter
Starter
Posts: 585
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:20 am

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby jwint7910 » Thu May 25, 2017 5:44 pm

Generic Username wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 3:13 pm You have no RBs in a start 2 format...unless you haven't updated sig to include high profile rookie RBs from this year, I think you'd be better served keeping your picks and selling AB at some point before season's end
This is kinda what I was thinking. I'm not an Alshon guy. I could just as easily see him fading from the scene and taking another prove it deal as I could see him regaining high end WR2 value.

I don't really think your team has the stuff to compete at the top end. In you shoes I blow it up, but I really enjoy that type of rebuild.
Dynasty League: Est. 2012 2018 CHAMPION
10 Team PPR, All tds 6 points, 27 roster
Start: 1-QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE, 1-K, 1-DEF

QB BigBen, Dak
RB Barkley, Cook, Mixon, Chubb, D Williams, R Anderson, B Anderson
WR Nuk, AB, M Thomas, Cooper, M Williams, Godwin, Gallup, McLaurin, Cain, D Moore
TE Engram, Njoku, Knox
K Zuerlein
DEF Vikings, Chargers

2020:2,2,2,2,3,3-5
2021:1,2,2,5

Dynasty League: Est. 2017
12 Team PPR Superflex, 1/4 point per carry, TE bonus, All tds 6 points, 25 roster
Start: 1-2QB, 2-4RB, 3-5WR, 1-2TE, 1-K, 1-DEF

QB Rodgers, Watson, Luck, Murray
RB Mixon, Gordon, Chubb, Guice, Harris
WR JuJu, Cooks, Golladay, C Davis, Godwin, Fuller, Miller, Washington, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Quinn, C Moore
TE Engram, OJ Howard
K Zuerlein
DEF Denver

2019: 3.10,4.05
2020: 1,1,1,1,2,2,4-5
2021: 1-5

colonnaj94
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3581
Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:54 pm

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby colonnaj94 » Thu May 25, 2017 6:14 pm

I think if you need a WR badly enough he could be worth 2 firsts. I've personally just never been a huge fan of his, he's too much of a headache..Always seems to be hurt & was suspended last season..
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Young
RB Pierce, Bigsby
WR Johnston, Mingo, Pierce, Marshall, Toney, Perry
TE Freiermuth, Ferguson, Kraft
1.02, 1.03, (5) 24 2nds, (2) 24 3rds, (2) 25 1sts, (3) 25 2nds

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Metcalf, Ridley, Rice
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell

12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
DB Smith, Curl, Love, Byard, McKinney

User avatar
eraldo_coil
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1164
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:31 am

Re: Alshon worth 2 future firsts?

Postby eraldo_coil » Thu May 25, 2017 6:16 pm

Even if you're not an "Alshon guy" you have to take this... Either ride him as Philly's WR1 or resell him, but you can't not take this deal.
Team 1
12-team, 0.5 PPR, SuperFlex, TE Premium (+0.5 PPR) | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX, 1SF

QB: Hurts, Herbert, Cousins, Purdy
RB: Taylor, Barkley, Swift, Mixon, N.Harris, Hunt, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Metcalf, Godwin, Ridley, Lockett, Cooks
TE: Kittle, Njoku, Gesicki


Team 2
12-team, PPR | 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX

QB: Wilson, Jones
RB: Robinson, Gibbs, Mixon, Sanders, R. White
WR: Lamb, Godwin, Lockett, Addison, D. Johnson, Meyers, Campbell, R. Moore
TE: Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 74 guests