John Brown value in rookie pick
John Brown value in rookie pick
For team 2 in sig i have been offered a few trades. Just wanting to see what the forum believes is the correct valuation for John Brown. With his disease under control i have high hopes for him over the next few years, as i'm sure others do as well. What should i be looking for in rookie picks to move him? Is a mid-2nd enough? Should i be looking for more/less? Thanks for your help!
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M Thomas, B Cooks, D Hopkins, A Jeffery, Meredith, Boyd, Caroo, Smelter, T Benjamin, C Hansen
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Graham, Walker, Z Miller
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A Rodgers
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J Reed, E Ebron, E Swoope, J Heuerman
Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
I think an early second is where I would put his value, but mid 2nd isn't that far off. You might be better off holding and waiting till he has some good games if you're looking to move him.
Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
Exactly what I was thinking. Could not agree more.
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TE: Ertz, Kittle, Waller, Freiermuth
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2025 picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
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RB: D Cook, Barkley, Chubb, Ekeler, Dobbins, K Ingram, Brightwell, C/Z/D Evans, I Spiller, Strong Jr, R Rivers
WR: Jefferson, AJ Brown, T Hill, Diggs, Pittman, JSN, MT, A Rob, D Johnson, Mingo, Tank D, Hutchinson, Shenault, T Scott
TE: Ertz, Kittle, Waller, Freiermuth
2024 picks: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 5
2025 picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
Based on the ADP data, he is coming off between rookie picks 13 & 14.
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Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
I like him so I was thinking for me would likely take a late 1st (unlikley to get) or at worst an early 2nd.
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Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
I think there are several issues at play right now. One- he has been inconsistent in the past. Two- medically, he seems fine, but could it linger. 3- QB- what if Palmer retires at seasons end? Admit add live never been high on him, but I wouldn't go much more than a early to mid second for him.
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TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
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2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
mid to late 2nd depending on your need
Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
I'd put his value at a mid-late 2nd right now. Too many questions with him to go much higher especially with this draft class.
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Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
These are my thoughts as well!
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Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
Yeah some where in the 2.02-2.05 range is probably about right
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Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
I'd pay an early 2nd for him...
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RB - D.Freeman,A.Jones, Jam.Williams, R.JIII, K.Balage, G.Edwards
WR -Evans, Smith-Schuster, Golladay, C. Godwin, T.Higgins, A. Lazard
TE - D. Waller, I.Thomas
Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
I have the 2.04 and the 2,08 in round 2 this year and have him as a trade target when OTC. My hopes is to get him for the 2.08 and future 3rd. Would pay the 2.04 depending who is there (would rather have Juju or Zay should either drop).
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Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
Would rather have Zay and Juju over him and possibly Samuel. That puts him around pick 18 in a standard PPR league, so in a 12-teamer that would be a mid-2nd
Edit: Probably lower than a mid-2nd actually, given that players fall. I would give around pick 20-22 for him
Edit: Probably lower than a mid-2nd actually, given that players fall. I would give around pick 20-22 for him
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RB: Devonta Freeman, Phillip Lindsay, Tarik Cohen, Adrian Peterson, Jerick Mckinnon, TJ Yeldon, CJ Procise
WR: Deandre Hopkins, Amari Cooper, Kenny Golladay, Nelson Agholor, Chris Conley, Golden Tate, Quincy Enunwa, Marquise Goodwin, Mohamed Sanu, Chad Beebe, Josh Doctson
TE: David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Mike Gisecki, Blake Jarwin, Tommy Sweeney
K: Stephen Gostkowski
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Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
X2The Spartans wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 11:19 am I like him so I was thinking for me would likely take a late 1st (unlikley to get) or at worst an early 2nd.
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Re: John Brown value in rookie pick
Early second is his current value IMO. I personally wouldn't sell for that right now. Remember John Brown when he was healthy. Guy has the tools to be a stud. I'm holding unless someone offers a first.
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RB: Mixon, Kamara, Duke Johnson, Breida, Gio, Mattison, Gallman, D. Williams (KC)
WR: Nuk, Cooks, Kupp, ARob, Landry, Corey Davis, John Brown, Pettis, AJ Brown
TE: Hockenson, Olsen, Goedert
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