Idp value?

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Idp value?

Postby RTE » Thu May 25, 2017 5:26 am

Offered Mike Williams and Curtis Samuel for Landon Collins 2018 2nd and 2019 2nd. Which side?
12 team 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 te 1 flex
Qb Wilson, Bortles
Rb Howard, Kerryon Johnson, Duke Johnson, ty Montgomery
Wr Odell, Cooper, Evans, Alshon, Curtis Samuel
TE Jonnu Smith, George kittle, Vance McDonald, Eifert

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Re: Idp value?

Postby IR1 » Thu May 25, 2017 5:30 am

I'd probably take that, db's are easier to pick up, Collins should regress some this year but expecting him to be productive for several more years, may depend on how active your league is and what you team situation is. fwiw I turned an offer for to receive Theilen for Collins
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: Idp value?

Postby Dunville » Thu May 25, 2017 5:38 am

A lot depends on scoring but generally offense is valued higher than IDP. Also a general consensus is that Safety is a pretty easy position to replace production.

I love Landon Collins but it is highly unlikely that he replaces his production from last year its never good to buy guys coming off of career years.

I would rather hold Mike Williams as he will hold value along with the potential that he becomes a stud and an intriguing guy like camuel over an IDP stud and some future dart throws.

Overall it comes down to your team need and league scoring, but Id have the Mike Williams side.
12 Team 1 pt PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex 1K
QB Stroud Tua
RB Bijan, Gibbs, Jamaal, CEH, Allgeier, Brown
WR Hill, JJ, AJB, Keenan, ReedReed, Thielen, Boyd, Iosivas, Tucker
TE Hockenson Ferguson,
K Elliot
1DT 2DE 3LB 1CB 2S 1Flex
DT Donald Zach Allen
DE Crosby, Van Ness, Turner, Wonnum,
LB Greenlaw, Kendricks, Bernard, Mosley, McFadden, Barton, Overshown, Cashman, Henley
CB Stream
S Bynum, Blankenship fuller, grant,
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2025 2, 3,4,5,6

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Re: Idp value?

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Thu May 25, 2017 5:43 am

Dunville wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 5:38 am A lot depends on scoring but generally offense is valued higher than IDP. Also a general consensus is that Safety is a pretty easy position to replace production.

I love Landon Collins but it is highly unlikely that he replaces his production from last year its never good to buy guys coming off of career years.

I would rather hold Mike Williams as he will hold value along with the potential that he becomes a stud and an intriguing guy like camuel over an IDP stud and some future dart throws.

Overall it comes down to your team need and league scoring, but Id have the Mike Williams side.
I largely agree with this. Without knowing what the scoring settings in your league are it makes it very hard to give a true answer.
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: Idp value?

Postby IR1 » Thu May 25, 2017 5:45 am

Sorry, I thought you were receiving Williams/Samuel, I'd keep them
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: Idp value?

Postby pierson242 » Thu May 25, 2017 6:08 am

Keep Williams, Collins will come back to earth this year!
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Re: Idp value?

Postby bronx » Thu May 25, 2017 8:48 am

As others have said, it is very difficult to make this decision without knowing the scoring system for your league.

For example, in my primary league, Collins (#28) scored more than OBJ (#30) and Evans (#32). So, if I could get Collins and some picks back for Williams + Samuel, I would absolutely make that trade.

However, most leagues really do not favor or reward IDP, so if you're in a fairly standard league that hasn't done much to default scoring for IDP, I would probably stick on the offensive player side.
12-team PPR IDP Dynasty
League Champion '16, '18

QB: T. Brady, J. Hurts
RB: A. Jones, C. Edwards-Helaire, J.K. Dobbins, D. Harris, S. Michel, J. Kelley, J. Wilson
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, A. Cooper, D. Moore, C. Davis, M. Brown, A. Brown, S. Watkins
TE: T. Kelce, T. Higbee, A. Okwuegbunam
DL: J. Allen, M. Crosby, Y. Gross-Matos
LB: R. Smith, B. Wagner, H. Reddick, J. Hicks, L. Floyd, C. Moseley, D. Hightower, B. Dupree, C. Littleton
DB: D. James, J. Jones, K. Dugger, X. McKinney, X. Howard

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Re: Idp value?

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu May 25, 2017 8:53 am

Only Rashad Jones has really sustained top safety value over the last 5/10 years. It's a come and go position, go for the offense, they last longer.


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