Super Flex QBs Value

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Super Flex QBs Value

Postby bigbuck22 » Tue May 23, 2017 4:03 pm

Trying to gauge the value of a couple of QBs in a super flex as I wouldn't mind upgrading from Tannehill. What would i need to give for guys like Brees, Brady or a younger option like Mariota?
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Re: Super Flex QBs Value

Postby Goddard » Tue May 23, 2017 4:06 pm

You would need to add a whole lot (multiple 1sts in my opinion) to go from Tanny to Mariota. Brees and Brady should be cheaper, but I'd still want a 1st on top of Tanny to move either of those guys.
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Re: Super Flex QBs Value

Postby Spongehack » Tue May 23, 2017 4:07 pm

Brees and Brady should be around 1 for 1. For Mariota you will have to add a significant piece.
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Re: Super Flex QBs Value

Postby bigbuck22 » Tue May 23, 2017 4:33 pm

Spongehack wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2017 4:07 pm Brees and Brady should be around 1 for 1. For Mariota you will have to add a significant piece.
1 for 1 as in Brady/Brees for Tannehill?
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QB: Watson, Tagovailoa Garopollo, Minshew, J Hall, Winston, S Bennett, T Hill
RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Ford, Spiller, Tucker
WR: Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, Aiyuk Ridley, Palmer, Iosivas, RJarrett
TE: McBride, , Engram, Kraft, Otton, Oliver

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Re: Super Flex QBs Value

Postby Packers new GM » Tue May 23, 2017 4:35 pm

Goddard wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2017 4:06 pm You would need to add a whole lot (multiple 1sts in my opinion) to go from Tanny to Mariota. Brees and Brady should be cheaper, but I'd still want a 1st on top of Tanny to move either of those guys.
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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby Coogan Football » Tue May 23, 2017 10:16 pm

            Goddard wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2017 4:06 pm You would need to add a whole lot (multiple 1sts in my opinion) to go from Tanny to Mariota. Brees and Brady should be cheaper, but I'd still want a 1st on top of Tanny to move either of those guys.
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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby bigbuck22 » Wed May 24, 2017 1:56 pm

            How fair is this idea... SF?

            Gronk, Tannehill
            For
            Carr, D Walker
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            RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Ford, Spiller, Tucker
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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby AZK » Wed May 24, 2017 2:31 pm

            TE premium?
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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby bigbuck22 » Wed May 24, 2017 2:39 pm

            Neight wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2017 2:31 pmTE premium?
            No
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            QB: Watson, Tagovailoa Garopollo, Minshew, J Hall, Winston, S Bennett, T Hill
            RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Ford, Spiller, Tucker
            WR: Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, Aiyuk Ridley, Palmer, Iosivas, RJarrett
            TE: McBride, , Engram, Kraft, Otton, Oliver

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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby Goddard » Wed May 24, 2017 2:42 pm

            bigbuck22 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2017 1:56 pm How fair is this idea... SF?

            Gronk, Tannehill
            For
            Carr, D Walker
            I'd rather have the Carr side. Carr is worth a lot more than Tannehill, and even though Gronk is worth a lot more than Walker, QBs hold much more value in SF.
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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby ADrunkenCaveman » Wed May 24, 2017 2:42 pm

            bigbuck22 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2017 1:56 pm How fair is this idea... SF?

            Gronk, Tannehill
            For
            Carr, D Walker
            Without it being TE premium this isnt close to me. I am a guy who has Luck and Dak in a SF and would never accept that even in a TE premium if I then have to rely on Tannehill as my QB2. If Carr was my qb3 and Tannehill would be my QB3 I think I would still pass.

            Tannehill is dead to me.
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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby bigbuck22 » Wed May 24, 2017 3:51 pm

            Goddard wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2017 2:42 pm
            bigbuck22 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2017 1:56 pm How fair is this idea... SF?

            Gronk, Tannehill
            For
            Carr, D Walker
            I'd rather have the Carr side. Carr is worth a lot more than Tannehill, and even though Gronk is worth a lot more than Walker, QBs hold much more value in SF.
            What would need to be added?
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            QB: Watson, Tagovailoa Garopollo, Minshew, J Hall, Winston, S Bennett, T Hill
            RB: Hall, Walker, A Jones, K Miller, Ford, Spiller, Tucker
            WR: Chase, Lamb, AJ Brown, Aiyuk Ridley, Palmer, Iosivas, RJarrett
            TE: McBride, , Engram, Kraft, Otton, Oliver

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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby Kramer » Wed May 24, 2017 3:57 pm

            I doubt the Carr owner would ever do a trade in a superflex league with Gronk at the main piece he's getting back. I would want multiple 1sts added and have established QB depth already in order to consider this offer. Tannehill is very very meh.
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            Re: Super Flex QBs Value

            Postby Coogan Football » Wed May 24, 2017 10:01 pm

            Goddard wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2017 2:42 pm
            bigbuck22 wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2017 1:56 pm How fair is this idea... SF?

            Gronk, Tannehill
            For
            Carr, D Walker
            I'd rather have the Carr side. Carr is worth a lot more than Tannehill, and even though Gronk is worth a lot more than Walker, QBs hold much more value in SF.
            Completely agree here
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