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One more Hilton trade advice

Postby AresGodOWar » Tue May 23, 2017 3:59 pm

Hilton , Miller , Ervin for Adams , Diggs , 1.03
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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby Goddard » Tue May 23, 2017 4:05 pm

I might take the Adams side. Miller = Diggs, but Adams + 1.03 > Hilton (but close).

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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby lic217 » Tue May 23, 2017 5:42 pm

Goddard wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 4:05 pm I might take the Adams side. Miller = Diggs, but Adams + 1.03 > Hilton (but close).
I agree with your assessment.

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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby bigbuck22 » Tue May 23, 2017 5:55 pm

I lean to the Adams side as well.
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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby A-train » Tue May 23, 2017 5:59 pm

Adams side for me also.
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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby AresGodOWar » Tue May 23, 2017 6:10 pm

By how much ?

How about
Hilton , Miller , Ervin
For
Adams , Diggs , 1.10

I feel like that isn't close to enough.. Miller and Diggs are close , Hilton way over Adams , 1.10
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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby Coogan Football » Tue May 23, 2017 8:26 pm

No way, Davante Adams? Barfffff

You guys are crazy.


I'd want more than that. I also don't agree with selling Miller right now either, the Foreman thing is much too much hype for me right now. Miller is still the lead dog by far in Houston IMO
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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed May 24, 2017 1:47 am

Coogan Football wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 8:26 pm No way, Davante Adams? Barfffff

You guys are crazy.


I'd want more than that. I also don't agree with selling Miller right now either, the Foreman thing is much too much hype for me right now. Miller is still the lead dog by far in Houston IMO
I know that's what I'm saying people think every rookie RB is going to be the next Zek and take over star RBs jobs day one lol , All these 3rd round and later rookie RBs maybe 1 or 2 out of the 23 of them will be good..

I mean really how many rookie RBs a year turn out to be more than a handcuff maybe 3 or 4 out of the hundreds that come out of college ?

TBH I am playing right into the rookie fevers hand and thinking like everyone else about these rookies and I gotta stop no one is taking Miller's job this year or next , Foreman is nothing more than a handcuff to give Miller a couple rests a game and Miller will get his 15-20 carries a game plus most 3rd downs..

And that's not even counting Hilton is a super stud in his prime with a superstar QB in his prime throwing to him and he is far and away better than the next best WR on the team he will get his 95-1400-8
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WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
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RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

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AresGodOWar wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 1:47 am
Coogan Football wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 8:26 pm No way, Davante Adams? Barfffff

You guys are crazy.


I'd want more than that. I also don't agree with selling Miller right now either, the Foreman thing is much too much hype for me right now. Miller is still the lead dog by far in Houston IMO
I know that's what I'm saying people think every rookie RB is going to be the next Zek and take over star RBs jobs day one lol , All these 3rd round and later rookie RBs maybe 1 or 2 out of the 23 of them will be good..

I mean really how many rookie RBs a year turn out to be more than a handcuff maybe 3 or 4 out of the hundreds that come out of college ?

TBH I am playing right into the rookie fevers hand and thinking like everyone else about these rookies and I gotta stop no one is taking Miller's job this year or next , Foreman is nothing more than a handcuff to give Miller a couple rests a game and Miller will get his 15-20 carries a game plus most 3rd downs..

And that's not even counting Hilton is a super stud in his prime with a superstar QB in his prime throwing to him and he is far and away better than the next best WR on the team he will get his 95-1400-8
Sounds like you answered your own advice. Keep Hilton
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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby Goddard » Wed May 24, 2017 4:20 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 1:47 am
Coogan Football wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 8:26 pm No way, Davante Adams? Barfffff

You guys are crazy.


I'd want more than that. I also don't agree with selling Miller right now either, the Foreman thing is much too much hype for me right now. Miller is still the lead dog by far in Houston IMO
I know that's what I'm saying people think every rookie RB is going to be the next Zek and take over star RBs jobs day one lol , All these 3rd round and later rookie RBs maybe 1 or 2 out of the 23 of them will be good..

I mean really how many rookie RBs a year turn out to be more than a handcuff maybe 3 or 4 out of the hundreds that come out of college ?

TBH I am playing right into the rookie fevers hand and thinking like everyone else about these rookies and I gotta stop no one is taking Miller's job this year or next , Foreman is nothing more than a handcuff to give Miller a couple rests a game and Miller will get his 15-20 carries a game plus most 3rd downs..

And that's not even counting Hilton is a super stud in his prime with a superstar QB in his prime throwing to him and he is far and away better than the next best WR on the team he will get his 95-1400-8
No one said anything about rookie RBs. I said Miller's value was equal to Diggs' and I would have said that prior to the draft before they took Foreman. Unless you're down on Diggs, then that's fine. And if you think Hilton is worth a lot more than Adams and the pick, then you shouldn't even be asking the question here.

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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby 21TD » Wed May 24, 2017 4:56 am

I'm not a miller fan, so I personally would lean on the adams side. but i think you could/should get more for hilton.

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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed May 24, 2017 3:17 pm

Goddard wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 4:20 am
AresGodOWar wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 1:47 am
Coogan Football wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 8:26 pm No way, Davante Adams? Barfffff

You guys are crazy.


I'd want more than that. I also don't agree with selling Miller right now either, the Foreman thing is much too much hype for me right now. Miller is still the lead dog by far in Houston IMO
I know that's what I'm saying people think every rookie RB is going to be the next Zek and take over star RBs jobs day one lol , All these 3rd round and later rookie RBs maybe 1 or 2 out of the 23 of them will be good..

I mean really how many rookie RBs a year turn out to be more than a handcuff maybe 3 or 4 out of the hundreds that come out of college ?

TBH I am playing right into the rookie fevers hand and thinking like everyone else about these rookies and I gotta stop no one is taking Miller's job this year or next , Foreman is nothing more than a handcuff to give Miller a couple rests a game and Miller will get his 15-20 carries a game plus most 3rd downs..

And that's not even counting Hilton is a super stud in his prime with a superstar QB in his prime throwing to him and he is far and away better than the next best WR on the team he will get his 95-1400-8
No one said anything about rookie RBs. I said Miller's value was equal to Diggs' and I would have said that prior to the draft before they took Foreman. Unless you're down on Diggs, then that's fine. And if you think Hilton is worth a lot more than Adams and the pick, then you shouldn't even be asking the question here.
I like Diggs and Adams as a nice WR2/3 but I think Miller is worth more than either , Plus Hilton worth more than either and the pick..

I talked myself out of it I just gotta stop trading dollars for a couple quarters just to get a little younger I'll worry about that after I win the league 3 or 4 straight times when my studs get older. Maybe use these next couple years to build up picks by trading picks back each year to gain extra picks , Like 2018 1st for 2019 1st and 3rd things like that.
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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed May 24, 2017 3:20 pm

BoomBap21 wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 4:56 am I'm not a miller fan, so I personally would lean on the adams side. but i think you could/should get more for hilton.
I agree with this guy I spent too much on handcuffs that never played the last couple years..

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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby Kramer » Wed May 24, 2017 4:17 pm

And Hilton continues to be under valued. I think the initial offer is pretty fair price to pay for Hilton who's a locked in WR1. Lots of potential with Adams and Diggs and the pick, but I'd rather have the proven commodity.
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Re: One more Hilton trade advice

Postby Goddard » Wed May 24, 2017 4:39 pm

AresGodOWar wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 3:17 pm
I like Diggs and Adams as a nice WR2/3 but I think Miller is worth more than either , Plus Hilton worth more than either and the pick..

I talked myself out of it I just gotta stop trading dollars for a couple quarters just to get a little younger I'll worry about that after I win the league 3 or 4 straight times when my studs get older. Maybe use these next couple years to build up picks by trading picks back each year to gain extra picks , Like 2018 1st for 2019 1st and 3rd things like that.
Yea, I think sometimes the best thing for your team is keeping what you have. I've seen too many teams who have studs at every position trade for the sake of trading, and making their team worse.


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