Abdullah and Garcon value - Update

[The Spartans]

Been working on some deals for team 4 below (need to add a couple WR this offseason and looking for young RB that might pop). Threw out some feelers on Abdullah and Garcon thinking potentially 'cheaper' options and offers back were crazy. So I'm thinking maybe I'm undervaluing these guys too much so wanted your opinions on what type of value they have for counters (in picks or players). Have 11th pick in each round of rookie draft.

[bigbuck22]

I'm not a fan of either and at this point wouldn't consider adding either. That said, I'd put their values as a mid-2nd. I realize that I'm probably much lower on them, especially AA, but if you need to rely on either then I think you're better off relying on the mid-2nd rookie.

If I were chasing similar players, I'd be more likely to make a run at KDixon, J Brown, M Wallace.

[Crwdstunna]

Prior to the draft and FA I wouldn't have given the 11th pick for Ameer but after I just might. I'd give pick 22 for garçon but I doubt it gets accepted.

[IR1]

With the AA hype, I think most would want mid/late first- happy to have him, not sure I believe in him that much

[ltgarygreen]

I had the same idea to buy garçon on the cheap previously in the offseason. Gave an 18 3rd 4th and 5th but that's probably way under market value. Any ways hope it helps

[The Spartans]

Ok. I was thinking my 2.11 for either (maybe with a kicker on the AA deal) so in line with you guys. Both offers wanted first + so I'll move along. Not that convinced on either...just wanted depth.

Been trying to get a J. Brown deal done so we'll see.

[jcc6fd]

You're trying to get a starting RB for the 2.11? I wonder why that didn't work. People are talking about the vastly inferior Perkins being worth a high second. AA is easily worth a late first. I would feel good about getting him at 1.11

[Goddard]

I'd pass on both. You're not getting AA for the 2.11, but I also wouldn't pay the 1.11 (he's probably worth something in between, maybe closer to the 1.11). As for Garcon, I'm not as high on him as others on here. He'll be 31 at the start of the season and we don't even know who'll be throwing him the ball. Sure he's talented and will be the WR1 on his team, but that's not saying much when you're the WR1 for SF.

[colonnaj94]

Garcon is a good buy low right now. He's the current WR1 in SF reunited with his former OC. He also Does not have any real competition for targets. I expect low end WR2 numbers from him in 2017 if he can stay on the field.

I think the time to buy Abdullah was before the draft. Now that we know DET did not draft a RB early, Abdullah's stock is going up. Abdullah's price is Probably more than what I'd be willing to pay at this point right now.

[The Red Rooster]

I think the time to buy Abdullah was before the draft. Now that we know DET did not draft a RB early, Abdullah's stock is going up. Abdullah's price is Probably more than what I'd be willing to pay at this point right now.

Agreed. Couple this with the fact that AA looked good before injury last year and hes going to be too expensive to buy now....maybe a high second if an owner has really soured, but, as an AA owner myself, I am more inclined to sit and see what happens with him, than trade him for anything less than a mid first.

[The Spartans]

Thanks for replies guys. I kinda misspoke, for AA I was expecting the 2.11 plus player(s).

[Coogan Football]

Garcon is a good buy low right now. He's the current WR1 in SF reunited with his former OC. He also Does not have any real competition for targets. I expect low end WR2 numbers from him in 2017 if he can stay on the field.

I think the time to buy Abdullah was before the draft. Now that we know DET did not draft a RB early, Abdullah's stock is going up. Abdullah's price is Probably more than what I'd be willing to pay at this point right now.

Great post. Although personally​ Theo Riddick would be the Detroit RB that I'd be going after, AA is fools gold IMO

[The Spartans]

One more Garcon offer (not sure why I'm stuck on this guy right now)... Usually don't over analyze these things like this.

Get: Garcon, 2.06
Give: 1.11, 2.11

So basically drop back 7 spots and give up late 2nd for Garcon. Feel it's kinda a crap shoot after 1.8/10 range but figure throw it to you guys for you opinion because my team isn't 'young' so not sure it's the smartest move. Thanks

[pokerplayer1000]

Garcon is a good buy low right now. He's the current WR1 in SF reunited with his former OC. He also Does not have any real competition for targets. I expect low end WR2 numbers from him in 2017 if he can stay on the field.

I think the time to buy Abdullah was before the draft. Now that we know DET did not draft a RB early, Abdullah's stock is going up. Abdullah's price is Probably more than what I'd be willing to pay at this point right now.

Great post. Although personally​ Theo Riddick would be the Detroit RB that I'd be going after, AA is fools gold IMO

I 100% agree with Coogan on this. What has AA done to warrant being worth a 1st period? Because his upside could be that so you are trying to get a late 1st? The dude isn't built to be a 3 down RB and that is clear from his first 2 years in the league. At best he is a role player, the problem is the lions locked up Riddick last year for 3 or 4 years to essentially be their 3rd down back. I owned AA in a league and was glad to ship him off for an 18 2nd.

It somewhat amazes me how everyone sees the upside in every player and then demands that for a trade but never sees the downside of anyone....every arrow is pointing up on every player. When AA gets hurt again you will wish you moved him for a 2nd.

[Coogan Football]

... personally​ Theo Riddick would be the Detroit RB that I'd be going after, AA is fools gold IMO

I 100% agree with Coogan on this. What has AA done to warrant being worth a 1st period? Because his upside could be that so you are trying to get a late 1st? The dude isn't built to be a 3 down RB and that is clear from his first 2 years in the league. At best he is a role player, the problem is the lions locked up Riddick last year for 3 or 4 years to essentially be their 3rd down back. I owned AA in a league and was glad to ship him off for an 18 2nd.

It somewhat amazes me how everyone sees the upside in every player and then demands that for a trade but never sees the downside of anyone....every arrow is pointing up on every player. When AA gets hurt again you will wish you moved him for a 2nd.

It was this one play that I think made people start hyping up this guy, especially since it was Week 1 of the Preseason after no football for 6 months lol