Thoughts on this deal?
Give:
Allen Robinson
Jimmy Graham
Get:
Rob Gronkowski
Carlos Hyde
Theo Riddick
Jeremy Maclin
How do you guys feel about this trade for my team below? ARob and Gronk are both coming off down years but I'm more confident in gronk bouncing back than Arob. I also seriously need some RB depth as I only have Gordon then a bunch of question marks. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks in advance!
12 teams, 1.0 PPR SUPERFLEX start 1QB/2RB/3WR/1SFlex/2FLex/1TE
A. Luck, B. Bortles
M. Gordon, M. Ingram, D. Martin, L. Blount, J. Stewart, L. Murray, D. Lewis
J. Jones, D. Hopkins, A. Robinson, J. Nelson, J. Crowder, D. Jackson, T. Lockett, R. Matthews, T. Benjamin
J. Graham, C. Fleener, A. Gates
ARob+ for Gronk++
Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
Arob side for me. I don't trust Gronk's health and Jimmy actually had a very good year last year. The other pieces on the Gronk side don't excite me very much.
Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
thanks for the response Goddard, what do you think the difference is? would a 2018 1st even it out?
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Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
Agreed with Goddard. An 18 1st would make it hard to pass on, especially considering the 3 additional pieces would be solid depth players in a 12 teamer
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
I'm sticking with the ARob side. Even if a 2018-1st was added. It makes it a better deal but nothing to make me feel great about moving ARob for injury riddled Gronk.
12 team PPR - QB/2RB/2WR/TE/FLEX/K/DEF
QB- Ryan, Carr
RB- Bell, Hyde, Coleman, Gio, Breida, Thompson
WR- OBJ, AB, Nuk, M. Thomas, Parker, Treadwell, Godwin
TE- Kelce, Engram
D- Eagles, Rams
IR - DJ
12 team PPR - QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Seimian, Bridgewater, McCown
RB- Bell, Freeman, Gordon, Ingram, Gore, Conner
WR- Julio, Nuk, KA, Landry, Hilton, Cooks, DT, Maclin, R. Matthews, Boyd
TE- Kelce, Rudolph, James, Everett, ASJ
12 team PPR- 1QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Siemian
RB- Bell, Gurley, Carson, Conner, Gallman, Williams
WR- Nuk, Baldwin, Jordy, DT, Crabtree, Crowder, Decker, Ross, Wallace, Richardson, Higgins, Taylor
TE- Kelce, Maxx
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QB- Ryan, Carr
RB- Bell, Hyde, Coleman, Gio, Breida, Thompson
WR- OBJ, AB, Nuk, M. Thomas, Parker, Treadwell, Godwin
TE- Kelce, Engram
D- Eagles, Rams
IR - DJ
12 team PPR - QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Seimian, Bridgewater, McCown
RB- Bell, Freeman, Gordon, Ingram, Gore, Conner
WR- Julio, Nuk, KA, Landry, Hilton, Cooks, DT, Maclin, R. Matthews, Boyd
TE- Kelce, Rudolph, James, Everett, ASJ
12 team PPR- 1QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Siemian
RB- Bell, Gurley, Carson, Conner, Gallman, Williams
WR- Nuk, Baldwin, Jordy, DT, Crabtree, Crowder, Decker, Ross, Wallace, Richardson, Higgins, Taylor
TE- Kelce, Maxx
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Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
Arob side for me. The 1st would sway me, but Arob is the best player in the deal.
12 team .20 pt per carry 1 ppr RB/ WR 1.5 PPR TE 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 te 1 superflex 1 flex
QB- Watson Ben Dalton
RB- Kamara Conner Cook Royce Mack Samuels Latavius
WR- Evans AB Keenan Kupp Marvin Kirk Deasean Foster Parker
TE- Ebron Engram Doyle Walker
2020 - 2 2nds
12 team .20 pt per carry 1pt PPR 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 TE 1 flex
QB - Winston Darnold
RB- Tevin Royce Penny Yeldon
WR - Golladay Davis Godwin Kirk John B. Higgins
TE - Henry Vance
DEF - Balt
2019 - 1.02 1.05 1.10 1.11 1.12 2.05 2.09 2.11 2.12
QB- Watson Ben Dalton
RB- Kamara Conner Cook Royce Mack Samuels Latavius
WR- Evans AB Keenan Kupp Marvin Kirk Deasean Foster Parker
TE- Ebron Engram Doyle Walker
2020 - 2 2nds
12 team .20 pt per carry 1pt PPR 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 TE 1 flex
QB - Winston Darnold
RB- Tevin Royce Penny Yeldon
WR - Golladay Davis Godwin Kirk John B. Higgins
TE - Henry Vance
DEF - Balt
2019 - 1.02 1.05 1.10 1.11 1.12 2.05 2.09 2.11 2.12
Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
As a Gronk owner, Im taking A-Rob side as well...the 1t would be tempting but Gronks back could be toast.
TEAM 1: 1/2-PPR,
QB: Hurts, Carr, Jones
RB: McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson, Walker, Zeke, Patterson
WR: Waddle, Kupp, AJ Brown, DHop, Beckham, Jacoby Meyers, Mims, Nacua
TE: Kelce, Hockensen
TEAM 2: 1 point PPR, Empire Dynasty[/b]: Year 8
QB: Allen, Tua
RB: McCaffrey, Ekeler, Aaron Jones, Fournette, Walker,
WR: Hill, Diggs, Cooper, Higgins, Lockett, Beckham, Crowder, Jennings
TE: Kelce, Waller, Hill
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QB: Stafford,Jimmy G, Purdy
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Aaron Jones, Derrick Henry, Williams, Dillon
WR: Kupp, Thielen, Hop, Gallup, Samuel, Valdez-Scantling, Reed
TE: Kelce, Schultz, Hill, Moreau
TEAM 4: 0.5 PPR
QB: Allen, Wilson
RB: Cook, Pollard, Swift, Robinson, Zeke, Helaire
WR: AJ Brown, Metcalf, London, Higgins, Pittman, Marquise Brown, Beckham
TE: Andrew’s, Otton, Likely
QB: Hurts, Carr, Jones
RB: McCaffrey, Bijan Robinson, Walker, Zeke, Patterson
WR: Waddle, Kupp, AJ Brown, DHop, Beckham, Jacoby Meyers, Mims, Nacua
TE: Kelce, Hockensen
TEAM 2: 1 point PPR, Empire Dynasty[/b]: Year 8
QB: Allen, Tua
RB: McCaffrey, Ekeler, Aaron Jones, Fournette, Walker,
WR: Hill, Diggs, Cooper, Higgins, Lockett, Beckham, Crowder, Jennings
TE: Kelce, Waller, Hill
TEAM 3: Superflex, 1 point PPR, 2 point PPR TE, Empire/: Year 2
QB: Stafford,Jimmy G, Purdy
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Aaron Jones, Derrick Henry, Williams, Dillon
WR: Kupp, Thielen, Hop, Gallup, Samuel, Valdez-Scantling, Reed
TE: Kelce, Schultz, Hill, Moreau
TEAM 4: 0.5 PPR
QB: Allen, Wilson
RB: Cook, Pollard, Swift, Robinson, Zeke, Helaire
WR: AJ Brown, Metcalf, London, Higgins, Pittman, Marquise Brown, Beckham
TE: Andrew’s, Otton, Likely
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Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
I value Arob and Gronk similarly so gimme the Gronk side. The other pieces are much better than Graham to me.
Ps remember this, Harveyd? We're still waiting...
Ps remember this, Harveyd? We're still waiting...
Don't be timid, it's all speculative opinions on here anyways!
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QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
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3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
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RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
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Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
Coogan Football wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2017 11:13 am I value Arob and Gronk similarly so gimme the Gronk side. The other pieces are much better than Graham to me.
Ps remember this, Harveyd? We're still waiting...
Don't be timid, it's all speculative opinions on here anyways!
I've started
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Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
Lol good, better late than never! Jk 
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Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
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3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
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Re: ARob+ for Gronk++
I like Graham a lot, but I'm not a big ARob fan, and I think Gronk is overrated becuase of his injury risk. The guys in this deal I like best for their ADP are Riddick and Maclin, but it's hard for me to tell which side I like better because I dislike the main pieces at their prices so much...Looking at your team I think I'd stick with what you have. Maclin and Hyde wouldn't start for you, and Gronk isn't a massive upgrade at TE over Graham IMO. Losing ARob would hurt your team more than getting the depth would benefit you.
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WR: ARob, Mooney, Myers, JGrant
TE: Goedert, Kroft, Keene
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DL: JPP
LB: Oluokun, Shaq Thompson
DB: Poyer
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WR: ARob, Mooney, Myers, JGrant
TE: Goedert, Kroft, Keene
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