OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

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Who do you like in start up for a win-now team?

Lockett
2
17%
Garcon
4
33%
Wallace
2
17%
Gio
0
No votes
D Allen
0
No votes
Jesse James
1
8%
Rookie Pick 2.11
3
25%
 
Total votes: 12

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OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

Postby Novacane » Mon May 22, 2017 8:20 am

We are in round 13 of a Superflex, TE Premium (1.5) Start up. Only required to start 1 QB, 1 RB, WR and one tight end with a superflex and 5 traditional flex spots (WR/RB/TE). I typically like to draft young upside players for the better portion of a start up draft but at this point, I am looking at a potential competitor and am looking for some thoughts on my next pick.

My team so far:

QB: Luck, Wilson, Flacco
RB: Crowell, Riddick
WR: ARob, Jeffrey, Crabtree, John Brown
TE: Gronk
2017 Rookie picks: 1.2 (Davis/Fornette), 2.03

Players on the board that I am considering at this point:

QB: None - depleted
RB: Bernard, Duke Johnson
WR: Lockett, Garcon, Wallace, Marvin Jones, B Marsh
TE: D Allen, Pitta, , Jesse James, Charles Clay
Rookie Pick: 2.11

Ordinarily, I would go Lockett here but with my team, I am kind of feeling like Garcon is the right play. Wallace and BMarsh are other similar options, but of those 2, I would prefer Wallace at this point. Am I crazy to take a declining asset like Garcon over an upside play like Lockett?

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Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

Postby Goddard » Mon May 22, 2017 8:45 am

Lockett or 2.11. One of the top QBs might fall to you there if you're lucky.

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Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

Postby ADrunkenCaveman » Mon May 22, 2017 9:03 am

I actually have Garcon having a huge year with Hoyer.. The team is going to be down and Hoyer looked great when playing last year with the Bears in those situations (Fantasy Wise). I personally hate Lockett and would go Garcon here if you're looking at a WR. Both are worth more than the 2.11 to me though as well.
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Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

Postby Novacane » Mon May 22, 2017 9:09 am

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 9:03 am I actually have Garcon having a huge year with Hoyer.. The team is going to be down and Hoyer looked great when playing last year with the Bears in those situations (Fantasy Wise). I personally hate Lockett and would go Garcon here if you're looking at a WR. Both are worth more than the 2.11 to me though as well.
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12 Team .2 PPR (1 PPR after 5 rec), salary cap.

1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.

QB: Eli, Wentz, Romo
RB: DJ, Freeman, Hyde, Coleman, Mathews
WR: OBJ, ARob, Watkins, Moncrief, White, Gordon, Hogan, Woods
TE: Gronk, Ebron

2017 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2

12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 0-3RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE.

QB: Wilson,
RB: Drake, Marshall
WR: OBJ, Alshon, TY Hilton, Jordy Nelson, Benjamin, Parker, Doctson, John Brown, Shepard
TE: Eifert, Ebron,

2017 Picks: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06, 3.01, 3.10

Team 3 (3rd Year Orphan)

12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.

QB: Brees, Kaep
RB: DJ, Forte, Dion Lewis, White, Drake, Ellington
WR: OBJ, Matthews, John Brown, Fuller, Parker, White, Lockett, Treadwell, Hogan, Sharpe
TE: Brate, Ladarius, Kendricks

2017 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Mon May 22, 2017 9:12 am

If you are a true win now team...although he might be there with your next pick I would strongly consider bmarsh
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06

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Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

Postby Packers new GM » Mon May 22, 2017 9:25 am

pokerplayer1000 wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 9:12 am If you are a true win now team...although he might be there with your next pick I would strongly consider bmarsh
Agreed. Marshall if in win now mode.
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            Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

            Postby vixen » Mon May 22, 2017 3:40 pm

            what a nice team..
            i would choose pick 2.11
            but if you think you are a win now team, then garcon or marshall

            what draft spot did you have?
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            Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

            Postby saw061600 » Mon May 22, 2017 4:13 pm

            Mike Wallace; he'll be the guy this year and is way undervalued right now.
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            Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

            Postby Novacane » Mon May 22, 2017 4:35 pm

            vixen wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 3:40 pm what a nice team..
            i would choose pick 2.11
            but if you think you are a win now team, then garcon or marshall

            what draft spot did you have?
            1.08. I took Luck in the first as the 2nd QB off the board. 3 of the 4 owners behind me took 1 QB. I grabbed Wilson in the second which started a huge QB run and caused all the skill players to drop even more than I had expected.

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            Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

            Postby Novacane » Mon May 22, 2017 4:40 pm

            Thanks for the input everyone. I ended up going Garcon. BMarsh went a few picks later but I was still able to grab Wallace who is just sitting in the basement of MFL ADP rank. Having already done a couple rookie drafts, I have found that there is a pretty large rookie tier from the late 2nd to the mid 3rd. I felt better grabbing these guys and aiming for a couple 3rds while my leaguemates are trying to fill out their roster. I really need some TE and RB depth though. I feel like I manage the RB with some upside backs but TE feels exceptionally shallow this year.
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            1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.

            QB: Eli, Wentz, Romo
            RB: DJ, Freeman, Hyde, Coleman, Mathews
            WR: OBJ, ARob, Watkins, Moncrief, White, Gordon, Hogan, Woods
            TE: Gronk, Ebron

            2017 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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            12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 0-3RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE.

            QB: Wilson,
            RB: Drake, Marshall
            WR: OBJ, Alshon, TY Hilton, Jordy Nelson, Benjamin, Parker, Doctson, John Brown, Shepard
            TE: Eifert, Ebron,

            2017 Picks: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06, 3.01, 3.10

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            12 team .2 PPR (full point after 5 receptions), salary cap. 1QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-3 TE.

            QB: Brees, Kaep
            RB: DJ, Forte, Dion Lewis, White, Drake, Ellington
            WR: OBJ, Matthews, John Brown, Fuller, Parker, White, Lockett, Treadwell, Hogan, Sharpe
            TE: Brate, Ladarius, Kendricks

            2017 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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            Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

            Postby jnappy » Mon May 22, 2017 4:55 pm

            Novacane wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 4:40 pm Thanks for the input everyone. I ended up going Garcon. BMarsh went a few picks later but I was still able to grab Wallace who is just sitting in the basement of MFL ADP rank. Having already done a couple rookie drafts, I have found that there is a pretty large rookie tier from the late 2nd to the mid 3rd. I felt better grabbing these guys and aiming for a couple 3rds while my leaguemates are trying to fill out their roster. I really need some TE and RB depth though. I feel like I manage the RB with some upside backs but TE feels exceptionally shallow this year.
            Love your team, and I have one like it in a superflex startup right now too. I think there are some fine late-round TE flyers that can have decent years. I like Clay, Miller, Allen, Higbee, and Brate for this year, and a lot of the lesser-known TE rooks can be great stashes i.e. Butt, Everett, Jonnu Smith. Target some of those guys later at TE, and those rooks in the 3rd round of your rookie draft.
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            Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

            Postby harveyd » Mon May 22, 2017 6:31 pm

            Garcon for me then Wallace second. I don't believe in James even in TE premium

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            Re: OTC Help - Superflex/TE Premium Start up Draft

            Postby Cowboysfan33 » Mon May 22, 2017 6:46 pm

            I love Garçon this season and that's who I would've taken, also like the John Brown selection. Looks like a really strong team that you are building.
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