JMatt value with (POLL)

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What is JMatt worth

1.04
2
5%
1.05
5
11%
1.06
4
9%
1.07
6
14%
1.08
9
20%
1.09
3
7%
1.10
15
34%
 
Total votes: 44

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JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby AresGodOWar » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:47 am

I'm looking to move him and just wondering what pick I should get in return
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby bot » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:52 am

I voted 1.04 as that would be what I would ideally want to sell him. I think when he is used only from the slot like he will be this year he should be more successful. I don't think that because he could switch teams next year makes his value any higher however, I just think he is talented when used properly.

Ares, I know you think he's worth 1.05-1.06 based on the crazy "JMAtt for 2.09" thread. I would prob take 1.05 as well.

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby AresGodOWar » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:56 am

Buckshot LaFunk wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:52 am I voted 1.04 as that would be what I would ideally want to sell him. I think when he is used only from the slot like he will be this year he should be more successful. I don't think that because he could switch teams next year makes his value any higher however, I just think he is talented when used properly.

Ares, I know you think he's worth 1.05-1.06 based on the crazy "JMAtt for 2.09" thread. I would prob take 1.05 as well.
I do like JMatt a lot I just figure I would move him or Parker since I have 7 WRs I like and don't think he would play much , For me they are just taking up a spot I thought maybe I can get a nice pick to taxi a player for two years and hope for the best
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby bot » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:02 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:56 am
Buckshot LaFunk wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:52 am I voted 1.04 as that would be what I would ideally want to sell him. I think when he is used only from the slot like he will be this year he should be more successful. I don't think that because he could switch teams next year makes his value any higher however, I just think he is talented when used properly.

Ares, I know you think he's worth 1.05-1.06 based on the crazy "JMAtt for 2.09" thread. I would prob take 1.05 as well.
I do like JMatt a lot I just figure I would move him or Parker since I have 7 WRs I like and don't think he would play much , For me they are just taking up a spot I thought maybe I can get a nice pick to taxi a player for two years and hope for the best
The problem I've seen with JMatt is that a lot of people don't believe so won't pay. I just bought him a while ago because the owner was trying to move and he couldn't get what I deemed market value so I bought for Moncrief.....but I have JMatt > Crief. If you can trade one I would prob trade Parker since you can prob get more from other owners

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby FiremanEd » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:25 am

Given what you've stated his 'expected' production is this year in other threads, you're either acknowledging it was wrong or you're making a bad decision on sell timing. Perhaps you get the value to equate to that expected production, but that isn't the standard value out there.

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby AresGodOWar » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:31 am

FiremanEd wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:25 am Given what you've stated his 'expected' production is this year in other threads, you're either acknowledging it was wrong or you're making a bad decision on sell timing. Perhaps you get the value to equate to that expected production, but that isn't the standard value out there.
Yeah thats why I won't sell him for less than a 1.05 or 1.06 if I like the guy there , I really think he will get his 120-130 targets and that's all he needs to produce what I think he can or close to it.. I just feel he won't start for me that is the only reason I would take less than the 1.04
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby sugbear65 » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:09 am

Fair or not, Matthew's value has taken a hit this offseason with the new wr additions in Philly, and the general perception he had a disappointing year last season and suffers from the drops. His production to this point probably warrants a top 3 pick price tag, but the reality is it's doubtful any owners are paying much higher than late 1sts(1.08-1.12) prices right now if you are selling. If u are believer in him like it seems, then you are better off selling someone else. If he hits the numbers you think he can, and being a FA next offseason, he's sure to experience a value spike sometime in the next year.

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby Goddard » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:58 am

1.08

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby NFL-ons » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:09 pm

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby apbohannon » Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:28 pm

I'd say anywhere between 1.07 and 1.09; you're getting JJSS there or John Ross. I think that's a pretty comparable comparison.
Team 1:
12 Teams, PPR
QB - J. Garoppolo, J. Goff, P. Mahomes
RB - Tevin Coleman, Rashaad Penny, CJ Prosise, Mike Gillislee, Derrius Guice, Tarik Cohen, Joe Mixon
WR - C. Davis , J.Doctson, Ty. Williams, T. Lockett, M. Mitchell, M. Gallup
TE - A. Hooper, OJ Howard, D. Njoku

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12 Teams, PPR, SF
QB - A. Rodgers, A. Luck, M. Mariota, K. Lauletta
RB - K. Hunt, A. Kamara, K. Dixon, J. Adams, M. Breida, CJ Prosise, B. Scarbrough
WR - M. Evans, D. Hopkins, A. Robinson, C. Godwin, K. Golladay, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, A. Darboh, A. Lazard, I. Zamora, L. Carroo
TE - E. Engram, OJ Howard
DT - S. Day, D. Hand, D. Irving, M. Jackson, S. Williams
DE - V. Curry, K. Ealy, J. Jenkins, R. Quinn, J. Sheard, D. Walker
LB - D. Bucannon, P. Smith, D. Trevathan, S. Griffin, R. Ragland, J. Bynes, B. Hager, K. Ishmael, M. Jefferson, M. Judon, B. Marshall, C. Matthews, W. Mercilus, P. Onwuasor
DB - A. Amos, T. Apke, A. Bethea, P. Chung, D. Everett, T. Gipson, M. Hyde, G. Quin, D. Hill

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby AresGodOWar » Tue May 02, 2017 12:54 am

wow a lot of 1.10s a lot lower than I would think with this draft class
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby Kramer » Tue May 02, 2017 1:56 pm

AresGodOWar wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 12:54 am wow a lot of 1.10s a lot lower than I would think with this draft class
Rookie fever probably. People like the idea of the unknown becoming whatever they can think of in their minds. Most players in that range won't amount to anything though. JMatt is going to have a nice season in the slot for philly this year. But another reason for the poll is that a lot of his value comes in deeper leagues as a low end WR2, high end WR3. In 10 team leagues like mine, I would much rather just gamble on an unknown WR or RB and their upside even if I know that JMatt has more value. Studs rule in my league, and JMatt isn't going to be one of them. People don't like paying for middling options when they can add a little more and get someone much better.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby ADrunkenCaveman » Tue May 02, 2017 2:00 pm

Have you not done this exact thing multiple times lol
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S: 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1FLEX, 1K, 1DEF

QBs: Brady, Flacco
RBs: Zeke, D Murray, McKinnon, Powell
WRs: Hopkins, Cooks, J Nelson, Baldwin, R Matthews, Quick
TEs: Reed, Rudolph, Davis
K: Dawson
DEF: CAR, BAL

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QBs: Wilson, Keenum, Flacco
RBs: McCoy, Howard, McKinnon, B Allen, Woodhead
WRs: Evans, Julio, Tate, Smith
TEs: Rudolph, Clay

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S: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 3FLEX

QBs: Brees, Wentz, Beathard
RBs: Murray, Miller, Ingram, Gore, Riddick
WRs: AB, Hilton, Dez, Tate, Lafell, Inman, Rodgers, Kearse
TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
DEs: Dunlap, Hicks, Wolf, Robison
LBs: Kirksey, Williams, Foster, Hicks, Perryman, Posluszny, Alexander, Walker, Morgan
CBs: Alford, Slay, Harris, Waynes, Randall, Bradberry, Trufant
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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby Kramer » Tue May 02, 2017 2:18 pm

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: Tue May 02, 2017 2:00 pm Have you not done this exact thing multiple times lol
I'm trying to lol :whistle: :whistle: Nobody wants to give up their studs though.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds

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Re: JMatt value with (POLL)

Postby Gtdano_14 » Tue May 02, 2017 2:22 pm

Goddard wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:58 am1.08
Exactly what I chose as well. I would take JMatt after the big 6 rookies and Howard.
16 Team PPR 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 TE - 1 Flex
QB- R.Wilson, B. Mayfield
RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
TE- G. Kittle, Enron, C. Herndon
'21 Picks- 1.12


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