Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins? ACCEPTED

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Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins? ACCEPTED

Postby cd6696 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:52 pm

Blew up this team awhile ago, and started a massive rebuild. 18 team IDP league.

I just got this offer. I give 1.07, 1.15, and my 18 1st
I get Hopkins

Thoughts? I need everything.

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Mariota,
Booker, D. Lewis, Lasco
Decker, Gabriel, DGB
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DT: Easley
DE: Edwards, Spence
LB: Anthony, Woodyard, Sheard
DB: Haha Dix, Addae, Thomas
Picks: 1.01, 1.02, 1.07, 1.10, 1.14, 1.15, 2.02, 2.08, 2.10, 2.12, 2.14, 2.15, 2.18, 3x3rds, 3x4ths, 3x5ths. 2018s: 3x1sts 3x2nds, 3, 4, 5,
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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby Alibaba » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:06 pm

I like it get Nuk due for some positve regression
Pay Dirt est.2014 15&16 champion
28 man roster 63M$ salary cap 2Taxi 2IR
Qb- A.Rodger,C.Palmer,P.Mahomes
Rb- T.Gurley,J.Ajayi,I.Crowell,B.Powell, Duke johnson,buck allen
Wr- J.Jones,A.Robinson,D.Bryant,S.Watkins
,W.Snead,John Brown,j.doctson, jjnelson,m.lee,j.kearse
Te- R.Gronkowski,H.Henry
Pk- J.Tucker
Lb- K.Alexander,L.Kuechly,B.Wager,B.McKinney, R.Shazier
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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby Favrezilla » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:18 pm

yeah i think thats a really good deal - especially in 16 team and especially since you seem to still have 4 firsts.
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (13th year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Musgrave

T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (10th year)
QB: Burrow, Baker,Jameis, jimmy, Wentz,
RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods

T.3 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (3rd year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Winston, Darnald
RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Waddle, ARSB, Pittman, MW, Jameson, Zay, Claypool, Toney, Terrance
TE: Hock, Fant, McBride

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby Big Al » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:20 pm

Nuk

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby TJHollywood » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:33 pm

Hopkins side

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby cd6696 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:53 pm

My 18 1st will still likely be early. Does that change anything at all?

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby pierson242 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:57 pm

cd6696 wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:53 pm My 18 1st will still likely be early. Does that change anything at all?
Nope that is a super cheap price to pay for him. Great piece to build around as well
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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby Steelersfan » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:12 pm

Small price to pay for Hopkins imo.

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby colinhunt13 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:32 pm

Great trade
12 tm PPR (QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, D, K)
QB: Goff, Stafford, J Allen, Foles
RB: Kamara, Guice, J White, Drake, Dar Williams (KC)
WR: Juju, C Davis, Edelman, Fuller, R Anderson, Goodwin, Stills, J Brown, Z Jones, Ty Williams, Allison, Chark, J Gordon, Treadwell
TE: Howard, Njoku, Cook
Picks: 1.8, 1.9, 2.8, 2.9, 3.8, 3.9, 4.9

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby Coogan Football » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:37 pm

What is there to think about? Be lucky your trade partner has rookie fever
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr/SFlex/ balanced IDP, scoring est. 2008
Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby JJDubya » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:39 pm

Gonna go ahead and disagree with everyone on this one and say pay for someone else. I have been a big Nuk supporter for the past 3+ years now but unless he gets a boatload of targets, he isn't really producing. Granted, he's had terrible QB play, but I don't see that changing this year. If you're hellbent on making the deal then swap out your 2018 first for something this year (1.10, for instance) since as you say, it projects to be a high pick. I'd prefer to target someone with a more secure QB situation like Cooper. Sure, he may cost more, but the floor is higher and the ceiling is about the same.

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby crashdkw » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:50 pm

I'd try to keep your picks in the current year, sounds like your 2018 will be a good pick as well. I'd counter him with 1.14 instead of 1.10... you may be able to get a Rodgers replacement at 1.10.
10 team PPR 2QB 2RB 3WR 2FLEX 1TE 1DL 1LB 1DB 1(DT,DE,DB) 1(DL,LB,DB) 30 man roster 3 man taxi squad 4 man IR
QB: Brady, Rivers, Mariota
RB: Jamal Charles, Spencer Ware, Devonta Freeman Dion Lewis, Terrance West, Jalen Richard, Ty Montgomery
WR: AROB, Britt, Rishard Matthews, Kerley, Lafell, Lockett,Tajae Sharpe, Travis Benjamin, Chris Godwin, Josh Reynolds
TE: Kelce, Henry
DL:Watt, Frank Clark, Buckner
LB: Kuechly, Preston Brown, Houston
DB: Vonn Bell
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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby Goddard » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:18 pm

Agree with getting Nuk here. See if you can swap the 18 1st with the 1.10 though.

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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:58 pm

I think this trade is closer than it seems at first glance, because it's a very deep league. Hopkins is a single REALLY nice asset, but you're losing several PRETTY nice assets. Depth is huge in your league. It's not inconceivable that this trade burns you in 18 months.

That being said, give me the Hopkins side, ESPECIALLY in a rebuild.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Rebuild: Give picks get Hopkins?

Postby M-Dub » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:24 am

I agree with everyone saying that you should try to keep your '18 1st. I would counter with the 7, 10 & 14, and be willing to add one of your 2nds or even the 1.15 if that's what it takes to get the deal done without giving up your '18 1st. I'm of the opinion that, in a multi-year rebuild, hanging onto your own 1sts should be a high priority, not only because they're expected to be early, but also because you have some degree of control/influence in how good they are.

That said, if he simply won't budge, I still think you need to make this trade. Even if your future 1st ends up being top 3-4, that's still a reasonable price for Nuk.
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0


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