I have a pre draft Dez option

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I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby sconnie21 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:50 pm

Wondering what in additiom to 1.3 pre draft is worth trading dez. A lfittle or a lot, and give some pieces that would work for you. Wrs are more valuable in this league. 1 pt ppr and also only mandatory start of one rb byt two wrs with a flex. So wrs are worth more in theory. Forget my teqm makeup, and help me with overall value. Much appreciated!
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:56 pm

I wouldn't trade my Dez unless I got a 1.01 and a proven young player like a K.Allen , Ajayi , Miller type player but I am really high on Dez
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WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

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WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby sconnie21 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:02 pm

Ok, so I should said that I also want his 2018 pick....75 percent chqnce its top 6 and a miss playoff pick. What in addition to thise two picks if anything is fair value (again, disregarding team structure)
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:04 pm

sconnie21 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:02 pm Ok, so I should said that I also want his 2018 pick....75 percent chqnce its top 6 and a miss playoff pick. What in addition to thise two picks if anything is fair value (again, disregarding team structure)
Umm idk 1.03 , early - mid 2018 1st and a young high risk reward player like a M.Bryant maybe
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WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

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RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby sconnie21 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:18 pm

So here is my attempt...1.3, 2018 first, 2.1, flacco for dez, 2.9, glennon, 2018 third. Again, dont worry about team makeup here. I know he wants to make playoffs since missing out past few years. Top 6 of 12 get their money back.
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby harr » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:36 pm

I'd move Dez for the 1.03 and an '18 1st, and I'm pretty high on Dez. I think that is more than fair, personally.
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby TheDogPound » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:39 pm

AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:56 pm I wouldn't trade my Dez unless I got a 1.01 and a proven young player like a K.Allen , Ajayi , Miller type player but I am really high on Dez
Interesting, why so high on Dez? Doesn't he make you nervous?

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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby sconnie21 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:15 pm

Ok, so in 12 team ppr dynasty with 1 pt ppr, is dez worth 1.3 pre draft and what if anything in addition to an early to mid 2018 first?
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Rb - Ken Walker, pollard, Stevenson, Aaron Jones, Dillon,
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D - packers,

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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby Goddard » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:23 pm

Brian wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:36 pm I'd move Dez for the 1.03 and an '18 1st, and I'm pretty high on Dez. I think that is more than fair, personally.
I'm more in line with this.

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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby BuckeyeNation » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:35 pm

Goddard wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:23 pm
Brian wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:36 pm I'd move Dez for the 1.03 and an '18 1st, and I'm pretty high on Dez. I think that is more than fair, personally.
I'm more in line with this.
This for me too if I thought the '18 1st had a better chance of being high than low. Dez is still a beast, but he's always been inconsistent as far as elite WRs are concerned. Plus he's been banged up for the past 2 seasons and will be 29 this season. Definitely not a death blow to him, but he certainty doesn't command the same type of return that he did 2-3 years ago.
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby AresGodOWar » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:23 am

TheDogPound wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:39 pm
AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:56 pm I wouldn't trade my Dez unless I got a 1.01 and a proven young player like a K.Allen , Ajayi , Miller type player but I am really high on Dez
Interesting, why so high on Dez? Doesn't he make you nervous?
I just think he is going to get his 140-150 targets again and put up his 90-1350-15 type year he was having before he started getting hurt
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QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby TheDogPound » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:00 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:23 am
TheDogPound wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:39 pm
AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:56 pm I wouldn't trade my Dez unless I got a 1.01 and a proven young player like a K.Allen , Ajayi , Miller type player but I am really high on Dez
Interesting, why so high on Dez? Doesn't he make you nervous?
I just think he is going to get his 140-150 targets again and put up his 90-1350-15 type year he was having before he started getting hurt
Wow..this is very interesting. I think this is by far the most optimistic viewpoint for Dez. He definitely has this potential talent wise, however, when considering the system..idk

I am a Dez owner so I am definitely in support of this happening. Lol He just makes me so nervous!

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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby AresGodOWar » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:05 am

TheDogPound wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:00 am
AresGodOWar wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:23 am
TheDogPound wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:39 pm

Interesting, why so high on Dez? Doesn't he make you nervous?
I just think he is going to get his 140-150 targets again and put up his 90-1350-15 type year he was having before he started getting hurt
Wow..this is very interesting. I think this is by far the most optimistic viewpoint for Dez. He definitely has this potential talent wise, however, when considering the system..idk

I am a Dez owner so I am definitely in support of this happening. Lol He just makes me so nervous!
Dak is a very good QB and with Zek there teams have to worry about him , All I am looking for is around the 136 targets he got in 2014 or the 138 targets he got in 2012 when he was putting up them type of numbers , I really don't think them amount of targets are hard to get
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RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby Mitchdp2 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:56 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:05 am
TheDogPound wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:00 am
AresGodOWar wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:23 am

I just think he is going to get his 140-150 targets again and put up his 90-1350-15 type year he was having before he started getting hurt
Wow..this is very interesting. I think this is by far the most optimistic viewpoint for Dez. He definitely has this potential talent wise, however, when considering the system..idk

I am a Dez owner so I am definitely in support of this happening. Lol He just makes me so nervous!
Dak is a very good QB and with Zek there teams have to worry about him , All I am looking for is around the 136 targets he got in 2014 or the 138 targets he got in 2012 when he was putting up them type of numbers , I really don't think them amount of targets are hard to get
This is optimistic and may not happen, but I agree there is a very good chance this happens. Dez simply needs targets this year and he will produce. I can see why some owners would be nervous for his downside based on his age/injury history but regardless I think he's a hold until mid season unless there is a really outstanding offer on the table.

I actually feel very similarly about Watkins, who I also have. Simply put, health + targets = monster output for these two. Main difference is that BUF has seemed less inclined to give Watkins the ball for some inexplicable reason. I'm expecting that to change this year however.
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Re: I have a pre draft Dez option

Postby flyersfan1981 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:45 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:56 pm I wouldn't trade my Dez unless I got a 1.01 and a proven young player like a K.Allen , Ajayi , Miller type player but I am really high on Dez
Yeah, that sounds about right, I would agree you are high :D

This is the last chance to get value for Dez so you either sell him now at fair value (equivalent of about 1.2) or you ride him out until his back craps out in 2 years.
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