Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:53 pm

Hopkins > 1.01 +
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:15 pm

Hopkins is worth more than any player in this draft, so this is an easy no.

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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby vbbish » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:27 pm

This is CLASSIC rookie fever. I wouldnt trade Nuk for the 1.02 straight up.

I dislike your counter a lot less as im not as high on K. Allen but still feel like youre leaving value on the table. Keep in mind that after the draft you are left with a PLAYER, one that has never stepped on a football field and accomplished NOTHING at the professional level.
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RB: Breece Hall, J. Gibbs, D. Cook, AJ Dillon, D. Pierce
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Jeudy, R. Moore, K. Shakir, T. Burks, Z. Flowers, S. Moore, J. Reed, J. Metchie, J. Downs
TE: Andrews, J. Johnson, T. Kraft

2024 1.01, 1.02, 1.11, 3.10

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RB: D. Singletary, E. Gray, E. Wilson, M. Carter, I. Spiller, R. Blackshear, I. Abanikanda, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, KJ Osborn, M. Wilson, D. Davis, J. Watson, J. Williams, T, Scott, Q, Johnson, P. Washingon
TE: C. Otton, D. Kincaid, T. Conklin, N. Fant, J, Whyle, M. Mayer

2024 1.05, 2.02, 2.10, 3.02, 3.04

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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby saw061600 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:57 pm

No way, just no.
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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby dynastyfanatic » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:23 pm

He's up to allen robinson + 2.5 now for 1.02
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RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby Bay City Original » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:34 pm

Step away from the keyboard to avoid getting "trade raped".
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QB: Allen, Purdy, Love
RB: Mixon, AJones, Swift, Dillon, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, AJB, DJM, NCollins, Sutton, NCollins, Mingo
TE: Hockenson
1.10

Team 2 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF - 2023 Champ
QB: Murray, Love
RB: Hall, Gibbs, Walker, Dobbins, KMitchell, EMitchell
WR: DSmith, Addison, Kupp DJM, Dionte, Chark
TE: Engram, Mayer, Waller
1.02, 1.09, 2.09, 2.12

Team 3-12 Team, SF, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTFS - 2023 Champ
QB: Purdy, Dak Stafford
RB: Taylor, Henry, Conner Najee, Warren, ZMoss EMitchell
WR: Samuel, DJM, Sutton Bateman, Pierce, Chark
TE: Kittle
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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby weeknee » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:40 pm

I sent the 1.05 and 1.08 for Hopkins a couple months back and felt I got a bargain for him.
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12 Team Standard 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, Defense, Kicker
QB-Carr, Manning
RB- Crowell, D Herny, Hyde, Gordon, Duke Johnson,Ware , Drake, John Williams, Joe Williams, Aaron Jones, D Washington
WR-AJ Green, Watkins, Hopkins, Cooper, Hill, AR15, Parker, K White, M. Thomas(NO), Perriman, Godwin
TE-Henry, Njoku
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QB- Cousins,
RB-Crowell,Perkins, Abdullah, McKinnion, Sims, Kenyan Drake, Terrance West, Jonathan Williams, Lynch, Hunt, J Williams
WR-Evans, Hopkins, ARob, Jordan Matthews, Doctson, Perriman, Stills, , Dorsett, Samuel, Darboh
TE-Henry
Def-Bucs
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RB- Gordon, Hyde, Crowell, Drake, Matt Jones, Sims, Gallman
WR-Evans, KB, Tyreek, Martavis Bryant,Ginn, Stills, CPatt, Aiken, Dorsett, Hunter, JU JU, J Ross, Darboh
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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby jarridgil » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:04 pm

This is a non ppr league and you start 4 flex players?
Yet everyone on here is preaching keeping nuk. Madness. Give me the 1.2 over nuk and whatever 2nd you were adding
I get the wr longevity but you want to win the league? Get the top rbs in non ppr with 4 flex spots. Simple
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Qb. Tyrod.
Rb. T coleman. J Howard. T Hightower. R MAthews. J Richard.K Marshall. D Williams
Wr. A Jeffery. Treadwell. Corey coleman. D Parker. P Dorsett. M Lee. P Richardson. J Gordon. D smith
Te. Gronk. Ebron.
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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:07 pm

jarridgil wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:04 pm This is a non ppr league and you start 4 flex players?
Yet everyone on here is preaching keeping nuk. Madness. Give me the 1.2 over nuk and whatever 2nd you were adding
I get the wr longevity but you want to win the league? Get the top rbs in non ppr with 4 flex spots. Simple
I understand the non PPR part that RBs are more valuable but if Hopkins gets a decent QB he can put up 1400+ yards a year , are the rookie RBs guaranteed that ?
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby Goddard » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:18 pm

jarridgil wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:04 pm This is a non ppr league and you start 4 flex players?
Yet everyone on here is preaching keeping nuk. Madness. Give me the 1.2 over nuk and whatever 2nd you were adding
I get the wr longevity but you want to win the league? Get the top rbs in non ppr with 4 flex spots. Simple
In non-ppr, Fournette is going first. After that, Cook, McCaffrey, and Mixon lose some value because they're all known for their pass catching ability. Take out the ppr aspect, they're not as attractive anymore. Give me Nuk over any of those players in any setting, any day.

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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby TheDogPound » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:53 pm

With this not being a PPR league, I like the prospect of Fournette. I am curious to see where he lands. However, in non-ppr leagues RBs are of great value.

I'd definitely try to offer another WR instead of Hopkins, say K. Allen (his injury history and the emergence of T. Williams concern me) or S. Watkins (His injury history and his lack of a viable QB.) Hopkins is valued SLIGHTLY more here due to him being the defacto #1 and a rather lack of injury history. Obviously, his success is contingent upon an even mildly competent QB.

Your WR depth gives you a ton of flexibility with this offer, IMO. If the owner doesn't bite on any other WR then I'd feel comfortable with this trade if I were you.

Ok, So I mis-read your post. I stand by my previous statements, however, Hopkins is definitely more valuable than whatever you draft with the 1.2.

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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby jarridgil » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:44 pm

AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:07 pm
jarridgil wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:04 pm This is a non ppr league and you start 4 flex players?
Yet everyone on here is preaching keeping nuk. Madness. Give me the 1.2 over nuk and whatever 2nd you were adding
I get the wr longevity but you want to win the league? Get the top rbs in non ppr with 4 flex spots. Simple
I understand the non PPR part that RBs are more valuable but if Hopkins gets a decent QB he can put up 1400+ yards a year , are the rookie RBs guaranteed that ?
So you are guaranteeing me 1400 + yds from d hop ? Your also guaranteeing he gets a "decent qb" ? Not hating here and think everyones opinion is valid but if im trying to win in that format ill take the chance on the 1.2 putting up 1000 yds on the ground and 400 in the air aka dalvin cook, in any offence. Dont have to worry about him getting a "decent qb".
12 team league. 2 new owners created an expansion league. 1qb 2rb 2wr 1te 1flx
Qb. Tyrod.
Rb. T coleman. J Howard. T Hightower. R MAthews. J Richard.K Marshall. D Williams
Wr. A Jeffery. Treadwell. Corey coleman. D Parker. P Dorsett. M Lee. P Richardson. J Gordon. D smith
Te. Gronk. Ebron.
Picks. 2017 1.3 and 1 late first. 2 3rds 2 4ths. 2018 1 1st 2 2nds 3 3rds 4th and 5th & 19 all picks + 1 1st

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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby sloth8u » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:57 am

If they'd swap nuk for 2, I'd take it. Dj, fournette, rb @ 2....will be lethal in your non ppr.

Gauge the interest of your league....does nuk get you any rbs? That will tell you all you need to know about the value in your league.

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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby smallxl » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:39 am

0crush83 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:51 pm Very surprised to see the comments here. This is an easy heck no. Nuk is worth much more than the 1.02.
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Re: Give DeAndre Hopkins + 2.5 for 1.02

Postby sloth8u » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:12 am

Food for thought:
10 (give or take) wrs averaged double digits, with the leader at 13.
Nearly 30 rbs did so, with the leaders around 20.


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