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Trade advice

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:57 am

%50 bonus to TE yards league

JMatt , Parker , Ertz , Rawls
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Tyrell Williams , Crowell , Higbee

What should be taken off if anything from either side ?
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(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Another trade

Postby ADrunkenCaveman » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:00 am

??
Arent you INCREDIBLY high on JMatt and Parker?

If I remember right you put mid to high firsts on both so lets put it this way:
JMATT (1.05) for TyWill
Parker (1.06) for Crowell
Ertz>>>>>Higbee
Rawls??

NO WAY!
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Re: Another trade

Postby Goddard » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:02 am

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:00 am ??
Arent you INCREDIBLY high on JMatt and Parker?

If I remember right you put mid to high firsts on both so lets put it this way:
JMATT (1.05) for TyWill
Parker (1.06) for Crowell
Ertz>>>>>Higbee
Rawls??

NO WAY!
Agree with most of this. Jmatt and Parker are roughly equal to Williams and Crowell. But the rest of this deal is wayyy too one-sided.

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Re: Another trade

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:05 am

ADrunkenCaveman wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:00 am ??
Arent you INCREDIBLY high on JMatt and Parker?

If I remember right you put mid to high firsts on both so lets put it this way:
JMATT (1.05) for TyWill
Parker (1.06) for Crowell
Ertz>>>>>Higbee
Rawls??

NO WAY!
Yeah I am really high on JMatt and Parker 1.05-1.07 range for them to , I do like Tyrell and Crowell a lot to I been saying to everyone on here I think Crowell is worth a 1.05.. I didn't offer the trade just trying to get a feeling of what people think about it so I can try to switch things up
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Another trade

Postby Gtdano_14 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:08 am

Yeah, I keep feeling like I'm missing something here. Maybe all the talk of Crowell lately is starting to get to people? Unless you have insider information that JMatt and/or Parker will be out of the league this year and Higbee is getting 70+ catches, I don't understand the reason for this trade...
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RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
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Re: Another trade

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:11 am

Gtdano_14 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:08 am Yeah, I keep feeling like I'm missing something here. Maybe all the talk of Crowell lately is starting to get to people? Unless you have insider information that JMatt and/or Parker will be out of the league this year and Higbee is getting 70+ catches, I don't understand the reason for this trade...
I gotta change the title I didn't do it I was just looking for advice on how far off it was like who I should take out of my side to get the Ty and Crowell , But he really wants Ertz
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Another trade

Postby Goddard » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:11 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:05 am
ADrunkenCaveman wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:00 am ??
Arent you INCREDIBLY high on JMatt and Parker?

If I remember right you put mid to high firsts on both so lets put it this way:
JMATT (1.05) for TyWill
Parker (1.06) for Crowell
Ertz>>>>>Higbee
Rawls??

NO WAY!
Yeah I am really high on JMatt and Parker 1.05-1.07 range for them to , I do like Tyrell and Crowell a lot to I been saying to everyone on here I think Crowell is worth a 1.05.. I didn't offer the trade just trying to get a feeling of what people think about it so I can try to switch things up
Counter and ask for the other owner to throw in a 1st (just not a late 1st).

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Re: Another trade

Postby skip » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:15 am

Take Ertz out and it looks more reasonable. I'd rather have Tyrell/Crowell than Matthews/Parker but I also recognize that Parker is overvalued.
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Re: Another trade

Postby Gtdano_14 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:17 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:11 am
Gtdano_14 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:08 am Yeah, I keep feeling like I'm missing something here. Maybe all the talk of Crowell lately is starting to get to people? Unless you have insider information that JMatt and/or Parker will be out of the league this year and Higbee is getting 70+ catches, I don't understand the reason for this trade...
I gotta change the title I didn't do it I was just looking for advice on how far off it was like who I should take out of my side to get the Ty and Crowell , But he really wants Ertz
Fair enough. Well if he wants Ertz, that should put you in a good bargaining position. I agree with Goddard, I would need a mid-early 1st added. Not sure I would even do it at that point. It just seems like too large of a downgrade at TE to acquire players you won't start.
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Re: Trade advice

Postby ADrunkenCaveman » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:17 am

What does this guy have on his roster?
If his only TE is Higbee then you should not be moving Ertz in a TE premium league unless you are getting a big upgrade at another position.
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TEs: Rudolph, Davis, Watson
DTs: Short, McCoy, Lotulelei, Allen, Sims
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Re: Another trade

Postby skip » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:18 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:11 am But he really wants Ertz
So what does he have to send back to you at TE? This appears to be a TE premium league and leaving yourself with Pitta/? is like just mailing it in.
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Re: Another trade

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:20 am

Gtdano_14 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:17 am
AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:11 am
Gtdano_14 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:08 am Yeah, I keep feeling like I'm missing something here. Maybe all the talk of Crowell lately is starting to get to people? Unless you have insider information that JMatt and/or Parker will be out of the league this year and Higbee is getting 70+ catches, I don't understand the reason for this trade...
I gotta change the title I didn't do it I was just looking for advice on how far off it was like who I should take out of my side to get the Ty and Crowell , But he really wants Ertz
Fair enough. Well if he wants Ertz, that should put you in a good bargaining position. I agree with Goddard, I would need a mid-early 1st added. Not sure I would even do it at that point. It just seems like to large of a downgrade at TE to acquire players you won't start.
I agree with everyone , You guys don't have any faith in Pitta repeating or Miller coming back strong from the injury last year though (I don't think Sims hurts Miller he is just a blocking TE)
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WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Another trade

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:21 am

skip wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:18 am
AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:11 am But he really wants Ertz
So what does he have to send back to you at TE? This appears to be a TE premium league and leaving yourself with Pitta/? is like just mailing it in.
He has Higbee , Sims , Swoope , Witten , Fleener
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Another trade

Postby skip » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:33 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:21 am
skip wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:18 am
AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:11 am But he really wants Ertz
So what does he have to send back to you at TE? This appears to be a TE premium league and leaving yourself with Pitta/? is like just mailing it in.
He has Higbee , Sims , Swoope , Witten , Fleener
Yuck...no wonder he is after Ertz. You mentioned something about Miller? Who is Miller and I don't see him on your roster? My issue with Pitta is that while he did remain healthy this season he played a total of 7 games over the previous 3 seasons. I'd also add that he was an "all or nothing" option this season and both his TDs came in the same game. He's a guy I wouldn't mind as a backup to a stud but would not want to be starting him on a regular basis.
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Re: Trade advice

Postby Coogan Football » Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:36 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:57 am %50 bonus to TE yards league

JMatt , Parker , Ertz , Rawls
for
Tyrell Williams , Crowell , Higbee

What should be taken off if anything from either side ?
Not even remotely close to me, JMatt/Parker side by a mile
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