JMatt , Ertz , Rawls for Reed counter

[AresGodOWar]

Owner of Lacy wants Rawls

I sent a trade of
JMatt , Ertz , Rawls for Reed , 2.04 , 2.08

Got countered with
L.Green , 2.04 , 2.08 for JMatt , Rawls

L.Green , 2.04 , 2.08 for Parker , Rawls

Was my offer fair and what do you think about his counters ?

[skip]

Your offer was fair. His counter is awful. IMO, Green should barely make an appearance in TE rankings. But I think I said something in your original thread on this trade
..Just trade him Rawls for the 2.04 (or 2.08). Don't mess with the rest of it if there isn't something there. Rawls isn't worth either of those picks.

[AresGodOWar]

Your offer was fair. His counter is awful. IMO, Green should barely make an appearance in TE rankings. But I think I said something in your original thread on this trade
..Just trade him Rawls for the 2.04 (or 2.08). Don't mess with the rest of it if there isn't something there. Rawls isn't worth either of those picks.

I know Rawls value is in the toilet but he does want him because he knows Lacy isn't getting the job , Plus Rawls is a FA next year I kinda look at him as a 2018 pick with proven upside lol

[skip]

Your offer was fair. His counter is awful. IMO, Green should barely make an appearance in TE rankings. But I think I said something in your original thread on this trade
..Just trade him Rawls for the 2.04 (or 2.08). Don't mess with the rest of it if there isn't something there. Rawls isn't worth either of those picks.

I know Rawls value is in the toilet but he does want him because he knows Lacy isn't getting the job , Plus Rawls is a FA next year I kinda look at him as a 2018 pick with proven upside lol

Knows Lacy isn't getting the job??? I'd be very interested to hear an explanation on that. Lacy is the best RB on that team, followed by Prosise. I was a strong advocate to sell Rawls a year ago when he was pulling in top 5 value and here now owners sit a year later still hanging onto him thinking there is a glimmer of hope. I don't see it. I believe the Seahawks typically suit up 4 RBs each week so he will be in uniform, but if they suit 3 it wouldn't surprise at all if he is a game day inactive behind Lacy, Prosise and Collins.

[AresGodOWar]

Your offer was fair. His counter is awful. IMO, Green should barely make an appearance in TE rankings. But I think I said something in your original thread on this trade
..Just trade him Rawls for the 2.04 (or 2.08). Don't mess with the rest of it if there isn't something there. Rawls isn't worth either of those picks.

I know Rawls value is in the toilet but he does want him because he knows Lacy isn't getting the job , Plus Rawls is a FA next year I kinda look at him as a 2018 pick with proven upside lol

Knows Lacy isn't getting the job??? I'd be very interested to hear an explanation on that. Lacy is the best RB on that team, followed by Prosise. I was a strong advocate to sell Rawls a year ago when he was pulling in top 5 value and here now owners sit a year later still hanging onto him thinking there is a glimmer of hope. I don't see it. I believe the Seahawks typically suit up 4 RBs each week so he will be in uniform, but if they suit 3 it wouldn't surprise at all if he is a game day inactive behind Lacy, Prosise and Collins.

I just traded for Rawls about 2 weeks ago I see the skills he has it was injuries and his OL that sucked but he was a beast in 2015.. That is one thing about me I love trading for guys that have a lot of risk reward , either injuried last year or had a off year for example L.Miller , JMatt , M.Bryant , A.Hurns , Rawls you know them type of guys you can buy cheap because a lot of talented players will bounce back..

My reason for Fat Eddie not winning the job is just that he won't lose the weight plus he is a injury risk and don't have GB line to run behind that was pretty good compared to Sea. , idk as a GB fan I never liked him it made my day when they let him go

[Goddard]

Your offer was fair. His offers are terrible. Move on.

[AresGodOWar]

Your offer was fair. His offers are terrible. Move on.

I am starting to think everyone is right I am trying to hard to get a trade done and the guys in my league know that so wait for me to offer to much..

I personally don't think Reed is much of a upgrade over Ertz that was the #4 TE last year without the head injury Reed had 0.5 PPG more and I'm adding JMatt for a 2.04 when I been saying I wouldn't take less than a 1.05-1.06 .. Another thing Cousins might not be in Washington next year and Wentz is just getting going he can be really good

[ErMa69]

IMO you offered way too much. JMatt and Ertz are very good values for 2 2nd rounder that can bust heavily, and Reed who is one concussion away from retiring i guess.
As said, if you can just get a 2nd for Rawls, go with that.

[AresGodOWar]

Sent just Ertz , JMatt for Reed 2.04 and got denied again and countered with K.Allen , 2.08 for AJG or Dez.. I think he just don't wanna trade unless he is winning the trades by a lot I think it is time to move to other people

[saw061600]

I think your first offer was too much. It felt off as soon as it was read. That said, It's easy to become frustrated when trying to make trades and start offering too much. One of the reasons I like using the forum is to keep myself from making offers out of frustration.

[AresGodOWar]

I think your first offer was too much. It felt off as soon as it was read. That said, It's easy to become frustrated when trying to make trades and start offering too much. One of the reasons I like using the forum is to keep myself from making offers out of frustration.

Yup that is me %100 and the league members know I love trading so they keep denying me until I way overpay , I think I am going to have the commish lock my trades for me before I hurt my team lol..

[esloan35]

Your offer was fair. His offers are terrible. Move on.

I am starting to think everyone is right I am trying to hard to get a trade done and the guys in my league know that so wait for me to offer to much..

I personally don't think Reed is much of a upgrade over Ertz that was the #4 TE last year without the head injury Reed had 0.5 PPG more and I'm adding JMatt for a 2.04 when I been saying I wouldn't take less than a 1.05-1.06 .. Another thing Cousins might not be in Washington next year and Wentz is just getting going he can be really good

I agree and get that happening to me all the time. Eventually they may come around. Stagnant leagues are a bit boring when you get owners who sit on teams. I guess it is a league culture thing.

[The Faceless Ones]

Overthinking will hurt you but once blood is smelled in the waters eagerness will destroy you. Maybe posting your roster will give better insight on potential moves, your offer was good that counter was awful I think it's time to move on or counter a player for pic, or player for player.

[AresGodOWar]

Thanks for the replies fellas

How about Crowell , Tyrell , Higbee for Ertz , JMatt , Rawls

I don't think the trade is bad just that I am losing my starting TE for a RB4 , WR5/6 and taxi guys they would be on my team 1

[mullmania]

I'm the other owner. My team isn't great, it's TE premium with a yardage bonus and Reed is by far my best asset. I don't see how turning him into Ertz and a WR 2-3 type helps my team.

Qb-Rivers, A Smith
RB-Forte-Powell, Lacy, Riddick, Jennings, CAP
WR-Keenan, Golden, DJax, Tavon, Kerley, K. Wright, Mike Floyd
TE-Reed-Vernon, Jack Doyle, Green, V. MacDonald

1.6, 2.4, 2.8
Taxi-Mitchell

P.S.

End of seasons stats have them both at 16 points per game? Ok sure that included Ert'z 17 blowup and a couple decoy Reed games.

Weeks 1-12 J. Reed scored 20 points per game and was only outscored on a PPG basis by only the big 3 WRs.

P.P.S. I also know NOTHING about Lacy not winning this job.