Get Cooper?

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Get Cooper?

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Watkins/Jordy
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Get Cooper?

Postby IR1 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:50 pm

Team 2- Got offer to receive Cooper for Watkins and Jordy. This is 2 RB league and I've been trying to shop Jordy for a RB without success. Not as high on Cooper as most, not sure the difference between Cooper and Watkins is Jordy. Depth is needed as we start 3WR and 1 flex. Keep what I got or get Cooper?
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby smmcfarl » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:57 pm

I say keep Watkins/Jordy. I'm a pretty big Cooper fan but don't think the gap from Watkins to Cooper is a guy like Jordy. Especially if Watkins can stay healthy they are pretty close to even.
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby harr » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:04 pm

smmcfarl wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:57 pm I say keep Watkins/Jordy. I'm a pretty big Cooper fan but don't think the gap from Watkins to Cooper is a guy like Jordy. Especially if Watkins can stay healthy they are pretty close to even.
I agree. I like Cooper a lot, but I don't think the gap between he and Sammy is Jordy Nelson.
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby kellysheroes » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:30 pm

I totally would take Cooper, Watkins is always injured and Jordy is up there

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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby teprovich88 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:41 pm

Looking at Team 2 and seeing that you start 2 RB, I have to ask if you are in a position to contend?

Personally I am not a fan of the foot injury history of Watkins and will hold out hope that he can return to full health, but also know based on what I have seen clinically that odds are stacked against him. Jordy is going to be 32 in a few weeks. I actually like this deal for Cooper that will allow you to have Evans and Cooper to build around for the foreseeable future.

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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby Goddard » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:56 pm

I don't know, I think I'd go with Cooper. I completely see the argument for the other side, but Sammy is frustrating to own and I don't expect Jordy to do what he did last year.

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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby Kramer » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:25 pm

Watkins side for me too. It's close though. I'd take Cooper if I was starting a rebuild though.
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby Parker8 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:29 pm

Watkins + Jordy for me

Just so much upside here.
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby homer » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:35 pm

kellysheroes wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:30 pm I totally would take Cooper, Watkins is always injured and Jordy is up there
This reason is why I would take Cooper. Watkins has never been healthy and Jordy is on the wrong side of 30

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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby flyersfan1981 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:43 pm

Cooper side for me and I think he is in the top-3 for overrated off-season assets. Take Cooper, he is safer than Sammy. Jordy is solid obviously but Father Time is undefeated!
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby IR1 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:36 am

teprovich88 wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:41 pm Looking at Team 2 and seeing that you start 2 RB, I have to ask if you are in a position to contend?

Personally I am not a fan of the foot injury history of Watkins and will hold out hope that he can return to full health, but also know based on what I have seen clinically that odds are stacked against him. Jordy is going to be 32 in a few weeks. I actually like this deal for Cooper that will allow you to have Evans and Cooper to build around for the foreseeable future.

What do your chances to contend look like? How available are RBs in your league? What does your draft pick situation look like for this year?
Have the 1.5 and no 2nd. Kind of feel like a middle of the pack team. It's been really hard to get a RB, so may end up taking this to have a Evans/Cooper core.
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby IR1 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:24 pm

Still trying to negotiate this one. Trying to find common ground on how much an overpay Jordy is. I've tried targeting a rb as it's 2rb and other than Crowell, I don't really have anyone to reliably start. Hoped for Prosise but trade partner is pretty high on him. He's offered Terrance West- if Baltimore doesn't draft a rb early, take it?
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby flyersfan1981 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:13 pm

IR1 wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:24 pm Still trying to negotiate this one. Trying to find common ground on how much an overpay Jordy is. I've tried targeting a rb as it's 2rb and other than Crowell, I don't really have anyone to reliably start. Hoped for Prosise but trade partner is pretty high on him. He's offered Terrance West- if Baltimore doesn't draft a rb early, take it?
Please clarify what the deal is now since it is obvious it has changed...
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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby Steelersfan » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:17 pm

I think it's a tad steep for Cooper but that's what it's going to take if you really want him.

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Re: Get Cooper?

Postby Coogan Football » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:19 pm

IR1 wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:24 pm Still trying to negotiate this one. Trying to find common ground on how much an overpay Jordy is. I've tried targeting a rb as it's 2rb and other than Crowell, I don't really have anyone to reliably start. Hoped for Prosise but trade partner is pretty high on him. He's offered Terrance West- if Baltimore doesn't draft a rb early, take it?
Who else does he have rostered?
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