Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.
User avatar
Petrolbomber
Starter
Starter
Posts: 630
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:52 am
Location: Canada
Contact:

Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby Petrolbomber » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:37 am

Team 4 in Sig, I received this offer last night: I give Perkins and 2018 2nd, receive Hill and 2017 4.12. DLF and Dynasty Nerds have Hill ranked higher, but ADP on both sites is showing the community likes Perkins a little better and everyone is suggesting both the Giants and Bengals may take a RB in the Draft. Hill has put up decent numbers, especially TDs, and is in a contract year. Could possibly get a change of scenery in 2018. Should I take Hill, who has produced his first three years and is till young or the new guy who could end up in a committee as well?

User avatar
Goddard
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 27771
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:21 am

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby Goddard » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:41 am

I prefer Perkins slightly, but I definitely wouldn't be adding a 2nd to get Hill.

0crush83
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1171
Joined: Thu May 21, 2015 11:27 am

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby 0crush83 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:46 am

Wow, this is actually a tough question for me to answer. I'm an ex and might I add frustrated Hill owner. I didn't like him when he came out but took him late in the 3rd. It worked, and then the real Hill showed up. I think he needs everything to line up perfectly to succeed. That to me is someone I don't care to own unless it's very cheap and I have roster space.

Now I'm not high on Perkins either but he still gets a chance to show what he can do. And to add a 2nd on him for Hill makes no sense. I'd rather own Perkins and hope he can be something, anything. Although I wouldn't hope for more than low end RB2 numbers at best. And expect RB3 production from him.
12 team PPR - QB/2RB/2WR/TE/FLEX/K/DEF
QB- Ryan, Carr
RB- Bell, Hyde, Coleman, Gio, Breida, Thompson
WR- OBJ, AB, Nuk, M. Thomas, Parker, Treadwell, Godwin
TE- Kelce, Engram
D- Eagles, Rams
IR - DJ

12 team PPR - QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Seimian, Bridgewater, McCown
RB- Bell, Freeman, Gordon, Ingram, Gore, Conner
WR- Julio, Nuk, KA, Landry, Hilton, Cooks, DT, Maclin, R. Matthews, Boyd
TE- Kelce, Rudolph, James, Everett, ASJ

12 team PPR- 1QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Siemian
RB- Bell, Gurley, Carson, Conner, Gallman, Williams
WR- Nuk, Baldwin, Jordy, DT, Crabtree, Crowder, Decker, Ross, Wallace, Richardson, Higgins, Taylor
TE- Kelce, Maxx

DLF Forum Co-Dynasty League
Mile High Wookiee Syndicate
Co-Owner: SimpleJack
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2017/home/70801#0

Space Cowboy
Degenerate
Degenerate
Posts: 8831
Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 1:47 pm

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:51 am

Pretty even swap but I'd go for Hill. No need for Perkins side to include a pick.

User avatar
LondonMonarchs
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 494
Joined: Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:01 pm

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby LondonMonarchs » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:56 am

Goddard wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:41 am I prefer Perkins slightly, but I definitely wouldn't be adding a 2nd to get Hill.
x2
12 TE Prem - Orphan Full rebuild :!:
QB - S.Darnold, D.Lock
RB - J. Taylor, CEH, K. Hunt, A.McFarland, R.Armstead, D.Evans, D. Dallas, L.Bowden
WR - C. Lamb, J.Jeudy, J. Jefferson, H. Ruggs, D.Mims, L.Shenault, P.Campbell, Z.Pascal, A. Lazard
TE - T.Hockenson, B.Jarwin, D.Knox, J.Smith
2x 2021 1st

12team, PPR, SF
QB-RBx2-WRx2-SF-FLX
QB - Baker, Prescott, Stidham
RB - D.Freeman,A.Jones, Jam.Williams, R.JIII, K.Balage, G.Edwards
WR -Evans, Smith-Schuster, Golladay, C. Godwin, T.Higgins, A. Lazard
TE - D. Waller, I.Thomas

User avatar
Petrolbomber
Starter
Starter
Posts: 630
Joined: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:52 am
Location: Canada
Contact:

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby Petrolbomber » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:06 pm

0crush83 wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:46 am Wow, this is actually a tough question for me to answer. I'm an ex and might I add frustrated Hill owner. I didn't like him when he came out but took him late in the 3rd. It worked, and then the real Hill showed up. I think he needs everything to line up perfectly to succeed. That to me is someone I don't care to own unless it's very cheap and I have roster space.

Now I'm not high on Perkins either but he still gets a chance to show what he can do. And to add a 2nd on him for Hill makes no sense. I'd rather own Perkins and hope he can be something, anything. Although I wouldn't hope for more than low end RB2 numbers at best. And expect RB3 production from him.
I just took this team over and have lots of roster space. I agree, being asked for a second doesn't make since. Hill's nose for the end zone makes him enticing.

dchurch85
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1368
Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:51 pm

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby dchurch85 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:11 pm

I wouldn't do it with the 2nd. I think they move on from Hill soon... I've been trying to move him all offseason and no one is interested. Perkins "upside" is worth more right now. You could offer Perkins and the 18 2nd and probably get a better RB than Hill. But do it this weekm in case NYG drafts a RB
12 team .20 pt per carry 1 ppr RB/ WR 1.5 PPR TE 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 te 1 superflex 1 flex

QB- Watson Ben Dalton
RB- Kamara Conner Cook Royce Mack Samuels Latavius
WR- Evans AB Keenan Kupp Marvin Kirk Deasean Foster Parker
TE- Ebron Engram Doyle Walker
2020 - 2 2nds

12 team .20 pt per carry 1pt PPR 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 TE 1 flex
QB - Winston Darnold
RB- Tevin Royce Penny Yeldon
WR - Golladay Davis Godwin Kirk John B. Higgins
TE - Henry Vance
DEF - Balt
2019 - 1.02 1.05 1.10 1.11 1.12 2.05 2.09 2.11 2.12

User avatar
The.Big.Spank
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5738
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:27 am

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby The.Big.Spank » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:34 pm

Hill. Perkins is a puny 200 lbs and is a change of pace back which means not startable.

Hill is proven and a goal line back. I wouldn't trade Perkins for him in a second.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

Wolfepack28
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 293
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 9:25 am

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby Wolfepack28 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:38 pm

No way I take that deal. You could sell Perkins for some other value now and buy hill separately after the draft. Too many question marks pre-draft

User avatar
Coogan Football
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 14333
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:03 am

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby Coogan Football » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:53 pm

Players are same for me, so I definitely wouldn't want to give up a 2nd for a 4th
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr/SFlex/ balanced IDP, scoring est. 2008
Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson

Don't be the guy that asks for advice without giving some out yourself
#WhoDat

User avatar
esloan35
All Pro
All Pro
Posts: 1600
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:14 am

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby esloan35 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:58 am

LondonMonarchs wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:56 am
Goddard wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:41 am I prefer Perkins slightly, but I definitely wouldn't be adding a 2nd to get Hill.
x2
I agree

roseyknee
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 493
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:35 am

Re: Jeremy Hill or Paul Perkins? (Trade Offer)

Postby roseyknee » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:12 am

I'd take Perkins easily, though they are probably worth about the same. Neither are exciting, but I'm worried about the Bengals o-line. They lost two really good pieces and Hill isn't the type of person to create is own yards.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Menace2010 and 81 guests