Win now or build toward the future?
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Win now or build toward the future?
Trying to decide my approach for "Team 1" in my signature below. I just traded Moncrief and Ty Montgomery for the 1.07, 1.08, and 1.09, even though I think I can win now if I make some more moves. Although I was the worst team in our 10 team league last year, it seems like half of my team was injured all year (Gronk, Decker, C.J. Anderson, Woodhead, Lockett, etc.) Am I a piece or two away from winning now if I am willing to deal my first round picks (1.01, 1.07, 1.08, 1.09) or should I consider trading my older assets (the big one being Gronk) for pieces to make a run at the title in 2018 and beyond. FWIW, this is an "Empire League", meaning if a team wins two years in a row, we start all over again with a startup draft. The league just started in 2016 and the guy that won in our first year was the 5th seed in the playoffs and not favored to repeat.
Team 1
10 Team 0.5 PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 DEF (21 roster spots total)
QB- Newton, Dak
RB- Zeke, Howard, Gio, C.J. Anderson, Woodhead, Darius Jackson
WR- Cooper, Decker, Sanders, Mitchell, Maclin, Lockett, Doctson, DGB, Agholor
TE- Gronk, Hunter Henry
D- None
2017- 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 2.01, 2.06, 2.08, 3.09, 4.07, 5.01
10 Team 0.5 PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 DEF (21 roster spots total)
QB- Newton, Dak
RB- Zeke, Howard, Gio, C.J. Anderson, Woodhead, Darius Jackson
WR- Cooper, Decker, Sanders, Mitchell, Maclin, Lockett, Doctson, DGB, Agholor
TE- Gronk, Hunter Henry
D- None
2017- 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 2.01, 2.06, 2.08, 3.09, 4.07, 5.01
Re: Win now or build toward the future?
I say push for the win now. Keep 1.01 though to take Cook or Fournette, whichever you prefer. After that I say trade some of those picks during the draft when their value is at their peak to get deeper at WR
Team 1: 12-team, 0.5PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex
QB: D.Carr, T.Romo
RB: T.Gurley, C.Anderson, G.Bernard, K.Dixon, J.Charles, L.Blount, T.Hightower, J.Starks
WR: A.Brown, K.Benjamin, E.Sanders, R.Cobb, M. Crabtree, N.Agholor, C.Beasley, E.Rogers, M.Wilson
TE: T.Kelce, M. Bennett, C.Fiedorowicz
Taxi: A.Collins, K.Drake, G.Allison, T.Boyd, C.Peake
Team 2: 12-team, Best Ball, 1PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: A.Luck, P.Rivers, A.Smith, T.Savage
RB: J.Ajayi, S.Ware, Duke.Johnson, W.Smallwood, C.Thompson, M.Asiata, A.Blue, L.Dunbar, F.Whittaker
WR: J.Jones, M.Crabtree, K.Benjamin, J.Matthews, G.Tate, M.Bryant, R.Woods, M.Wilson, E.Rogers, S.Roberts, C.Brown
TE: T.Kelce, J.Thomas, D.Pitta, E.Swoope
Taxi: B.Miller, G.Allison, T.Davis, R.Louis, A.Janovich
QB: D.Carr, T.Romo
RB: T.Gurley, C.Anderson, G.Bernard, K.Dixon, J.Charles, L.Blount, T.Hightower, J.Starks
WR: A.Brown, K.Benjamin, E.Sanders, R.Cobb, M. Crabtree, N.Agholor, C.Beasley, E.Rogers, M.Wilson
TE: T.Kelce, M. Bennett, C.Fiedorowicz
Taxi: A.Collins, K.Drake, G.Allison, T.Boyd, C.Peake
Team 2: 12-team, Best Ball, 1PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: A.Luck, P.Rivers, A.Smith, T.Savage
RB: J.Ajayi, S.Ware, Duke.Johnson, W.Smallwood, C.Thompson, M.Asiata, A.Blue, L.Dunbar, F.Whittaker
WR: J.Jones, M.Crabtree, K.Benjamin, J.Matthews, G.Tate, M.Bryant, R.Woods, M.Wilson, E.Rogers, S.Roberts, C.Brown
TE: T.Kelce, J.Thomas, D.Pitta, E.Swoope
Taxi: B.Miller, G.Allison, T.Davis, R.Louis, A.Janovich
Re: Win now or build toward the future?
You had a boatload of injuries and underachievers last year. You have enough youth to go along with the studs that you are in the envious position of being able to do both. Trade Gronk for a WR and roll with Henry. If you can package a couple of those 1sts and move yourself into the Davis/Williams range or maybe Ross falls to you there. Another thought is trading down from the 1.01 a couple spots and pick up another 1st. Throw enough darts at those mid 1st round RBs and you're going to hit a bullseye.
qb- stafford, luck, taylor
rb- l.miller, henry, mckinnon, wilkins, walton, ware, abdullah, powell
wr- k.allen, hilton, j.crowder, r.woods, r.matthews, ty.williams, mike williams, richardson, s.roberts, perriman, lafell, k.britt, r.higgins, torrey smith
te- ertz, gates, eifert
k- prater, fairbairn
d-carolina, detroit
12 team, 30 man rosters ppr 1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, 1 te, 1flex, 1 superflex start
rb- l.miller, henry, mckinnon, wilkins, walton, ware, abdullah, powell
wr- k.allen, hilton, j.crowder, r.woods, r.matthews, ty.williams, mike williams, richardson, s.roberts, perriman, lafell, k.britt, r.higgins, torrey smith
te- ertz, gates, eifert
k- prater, fairbairn
d-carolina, detroit
12 team, 30 man rosters ppr 1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, 1 te, 1flex, 1 superflex start
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Re: Win now or build toward the future?
I appreciate your thoughts. Not sure about trading Gronk in a 10 team league though. I feel (when healthy, which isn't very often, I know), he provides such a positional advantage. I certainly could use some help at WR, but I don't know if I am comfortable with Henry as my TE1 going into 2017 (except when Gronk is injured of course ).
Team 1
10 Team 0.5 PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 DEF (21 roster spots total)
QB- Newton, Dak
RB- Zeke, Howard, Gio, C.J. Anderson, Woodhead, Darius Jackson
WR- Cooper, Decker, Sanders, Mitchell, Maclin, Lockett, Doctson, DGB, Agholor
TE- Gronk, Hunter Henry
D- None
2017- 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 2.01, 2.06, 2.08, 3.09, 4.07, 5.01
10 Team 0.5 PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 DEF (21 roster spots total)
QB- Newton, Dak
RB- Zeke, Howard, Gio, C.J. Anderson, Woodhead, Darius Jackson
WR- Cooper, Decker, Sanders, Mitchell, Maclin, Lockett, Doctson, DGB, Agholor
TE- Gronk, Hunter Henry
D- None
2017- 1.07, 1.08, 1.09, 2.01, 2.06, 2.08, 3.09, 4.07, 5.01
Re: Win now or build toward the future?
I say keep pushing. I like the trade you just made, and I'd try to flip those picks during the draft like a previous poster said. You've got a great young team. No reason to blow it up just because the injury bug bit hard last season.
[Team 1] 2015 - 6th | 2016 - 12th | 2017 - 3rd | 2018 - 1st! | 2019 - 3rd | 2020 - 5th
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32 team full PPR/IDP - 1TMQB/1RB/1WR/1TE/1FLEX/1TMPK/1DL/1LB/1DB
TMQB: 49ers
RB: Kamara, DJ, Hines, JJack
WR: ARob, Mooney, Myers, JGrant
TE: Goedert, Kroft, Keene
TMPK: 49ers
DL: JPP
LB: Oluokun, Shaq Thompson
DB: Poyer
2021 picks: 1.26, 2.26, 3.26
2022 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Hometown league
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32 team full PPR/IDP - 1TMQB/1RB/1WR/1TE/1FLEX/1TMPK/1DL/1LB/1DB
TMQB: 49ers
RB: Kamara, DJ, Hines, JJack
WR: ARob, Mooney, Myers, JGrant
TE: Goedert, Kroft, Keene
TMPK: 49ers
DL: JPP
LB: Oluokun, Shaq Thompson
DB: Poyer
2021 picks: 1.26, 2.26, 3.26
2022 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Re: Win now or build toward the future?
I echo other comments-go for it...give yourself at least another year to go for it as you have players that had subpar outlier performances last year. Godd luck!
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QB: Luck, Brees
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TE: Graham, McDonald
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Re: Win now or build toward the future?
Who are you waiving to add all those picks?
No reason you can't compete and build at same time with your current roster. I'd look to consolidate picks or pick and player to try and upgrade tiers. Position yourself to get Davis or Williams with the pick by moving up or package it with anyone but Cooper to get a WR2 type.
No reason you can't compete and build at same time with your current roster. I'd look to consolidate picks or pick and player to try and upgrade tiers. Position yourself to get Davis or Williams with the pick by moving up or package it with anyone but Cooper to get a WR2 type.
Re: Win now or build toward the future?
Cash in on those picks and upgrade your WR core. I like your RB's for the most part....I think Ajayi is the key here! See if you can snag Hopkins cheap.
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Re: Win now or build toward the future?
Piling on going for the win and that you need to get more WR help
12 team contract/salary cap 0.5PPR, 6pt Pass Td, Cap increases 5% each yr, salaries increase 10% each yr, cutting penalties by years remaining, rookie line draft and FA auctions
24 man roster - 1Qb/2RB/2WR/1TE/2Flex/K/Def
Salary Cap $1145
Cap room available -$47
The Gurley Girls (2018):
QB - Tom Brady ($125, 1yrs), Phillip Rivers ($62, 3Yrs), Lamar Jackson ($15, 3 yrs)
RB - Gurley ($131, 3 yrs) Hyde ($81, 2 yrs) Joe Mixon ($44, 2 yrs), Jamaal Williams ($22, 2 yrs) Duke Johnson ($25, 3 yrs) John Kelly ($10, 3 yrs)
WR- Watkins ($106, 4 yrs) Michael Thomas ($47, 4 yrs) Stefon Diggs ($14, 3 yrs) Jamison Crowder ($10, 2 yrs) DeVante Parker ($58, 3 yrs) Martavis Bryant ($11, 4 yrs), Doug Baldwin ($41, 4 yrs) Corey Davis ($55, 2 yrs), Michael Gallup ($20, 3 yrs) Marquez Scantling-Valdes ($1, 5 yrs)
TE - Eric Ebron ($63, 2 yrs) Greg Olsen ($125, 1 yr)
Picks: 2019 - 3rd
Picks 2020 - 2nd, 3rd
24 man roster - 1Qb/2RB/2WR/1TE/2Flex/K/Def
Salary Cap $1145
Cap room available -$47
The Gurley Girls (2018):
QB - Tom Brady ($125, 1yrs), Phillip Rivers ($62, 3Yrs), Lamar Jackson ($15, 3 yrs)
RB - Gurley ($131, 3 yrs) Hyde ($81, 2 yrs) Joe Mixon ($44, 2 yrs), Jamaal Williams ($22, 2 yrs) Duke Johnson ($25, 3 yrs) John Kelly ($10, 3 yrs)
WR- Watkins ($106, 4 yrs) Michael Thomas ($47, 4 yrs) Stefon Diggs ($14, 3 yrs) Jamison Crowder ($10, 2 yrs) DeVante Parker ($58, 3 yrs) Martavis Bryant ($11, 4 yrs), Doug Baldwin ($41, 4 yrs) Corey Davis ($55, 2 yrs), Michael Gallup ($20, 3 yrs) Marquez Scantling-Valdes ($1, 5 yrs)
TE - Eric Ebron ($63, 2 yrs) Greg Olsen ($125, 1 yr)
Picks: 2019 - 3rd
Picks 2020 - 2nd, 3rd
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Re: Win now or build toward the future?
team has a chance. you can trade gronk yeah, but i think you should go for the weekly upside and have a solid backup when he's hurt. trade some picks, you have a shot.
12-team, PPR, 2QB, IDP League--Start 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 W/R/T, 2D, 1LB, 1DL, 1DB
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
LB: Roquan Smith, CJ Mosley, Terrel Bernard Ernest Jones, Quincy Williams
DL: Jonathan Greenard , Malcolm Koonce
DB: Jason Pinnock
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
LB: Roquan Smith, CJ Mosley, Terrel Bernard Ernest Jones, Quincy Williams
DL: Jonathan Greenard , Malcolm Koonce
DB: Jason Pinnock
Re: Win now or build toward the future?
Solid team - only need to start 2 WR and it's 0.5 PPR, so their impact somewhat muted. Agree with posts above, just continue to be savvy. Provided no major injury setbacks, I'd say you've got a shot at the playoffs.
Re: Win now or build toward the future?
I think youre still a year plus away from competing in a 10 team league. A solid draft will set you up well for 18
Re: Win now or build toward the future?
I'd go for the win. I think you have the pieces to compete
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- TLaw, Stafford,
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Kirk , QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Madabuike, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Ebukam
LB- Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.01, 1.02, 1.11
5 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- TLaw, Stafford,
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Kirk , QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Madabuike, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Ebukam
LB- Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
1.01, 1.02, 1.11
5 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
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Re: Win now or build toward the future?
X2, this is exactly what I would do if I were you.
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr/SFlex/ balanced IDP, scoring est. 2008
Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
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Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
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Re: Win now or build toward the future?
piling on with this. you should be able to get a couple of solid WR's simply by upgrading them. Try packaging your late 1sts, early 2nds and some WR2/3 guys for a low end WR1
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