Which would you rather have in a 12 team ppr league where you start 2rb/3wr/1flex CONSIDERING these conditions
League values rbs pretty high. DJ sold for OBJ around week 4, Leveon sold for aj/demarco/1st right before he began playing from his suspension for reference
Current team with 1.02 has plenty of wr depth already(Watkins, Cooks, Cooper, Keenan, Baldwin, Cobb, Parker) but low on rbs..(Gurley, Yeldon, Crow, Henry)
1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08/1.09
I would take Hopkins over the 1.01
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08/1.09
You want the 1.02 to turn into someone like Hopkins. So obviously, take Hopkins.
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QB: J. Winston, S. Bradford
WR: M. Evans, S. Watkins, D. Hopkins, B. Cooks, S. Diggs, L. Treadwell, C. Conley, T. Gabriel, J. Reynolds (R), T. Taylor (R)
RB: D. Cook (R), T. Coleman, A. Abdullah, T. Yeldon, C. Sims, J. McKinnon, R. Burkhead, J. Williams, T. Logan (R), T. Cohen (R)
TE: E. Ebron, H. Henry
K: S. Gostkowski
DEF: Los Angeles
Future Picks: 2 2018 1sts, 1 2018 3rd, 1 2018 4th
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WR: D. Hopkins, A. Robinson, D. Thomas, L. Treadwell, T. Williams, M. Mitchell, D. Westbrook (R), M. Wallace, L. Caroo, T. Benjamin, I. Ford (R), T. Taylor (R), C. Henderson (R), G. Allison
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RB: D. Cook (R), T. Coleman, A. Abdullah, T. Yeldon, C. Sims, J. McKinnon, R. Burkhead, J. Williams, T. Logan (R), T. Cohen (R)
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08/1.09
Umm, Nuk, very easily.
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
where the nuk haters at?
Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
Is this for real?
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RB - Zeke, DJ, Ingram, J Howard, Penny, Ware
WR - Nuk, Julio, D Adams, Cooks, A Cooper, Kirk, E Sanders, Albert Wilson, Deon Cain, Brandon Powell, Lasley
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
As a Nuk owner, I'm very pleased with the unwavering faith in him.
That being said, I will try and likely fail to get the 1.1 offering him.
That being said, I will try and likely fail to get the 1.1 offering him.
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
Yea it's for real lol. It's almost impossibly to acquire a top rb in my league
Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
You defend the rb with trade values rather then the point scoring system. Easily nuk side by a landslide.
Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
Plus Hopkins isn't looking top 5 wr anymore. More like top 10. Not so crazy when I think about it. Could be top 5-10 asset that's of more use/scarce for a top 15 asset and 2 late firsts. Where I have plenty of WRs already. Value wise yes but winning wise not sure
There are 3 rbs with far higher points than any wr in my league. They win championships, not an abundance of wrs
There are 3 rbs with far higher points than any wr in my league. They win championships, not an abundance of wrs
Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
oh jeez... HOPKINS and accept really really fast
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RB: Le'Veon Bell, Devonta Freeman ,Mark Ingram, Rex Burkhead, Danny Woodhead
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Brandin Cooks, Dez Bryant, Sammy Watkins, Josh Gordon, John Brown, Devin Funchess, Terrelle Pryor & Cameron Meredith
TE: Rob Gronkowski Jordan Reed & Austin Sefarian-Jenkins
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RB: Dalvin Cook, Giovani Bernard, Rex Burkhead, Mike Davis, Duke Johnson, D'onta Foreman, Elijah McGuire & Tion Green
WR: Allen Robinson, Robby Anderson, Corey Coleman, Jordan Matthews, Josh Gordon & Josh Reynolds
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K: Matt Bryant
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QB: Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers
RB: Le'Veon Bell, Devonta Freeman ,Mark Ingram, Rex Burkhead, Danny Woodhead
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Brandin Cooks, Dez Bryant, Sammy Watkins, Josh Gordon, John Brown, Devin Funchess, Terrelle Pryor & Cameron Meredith
TE: Rob Gronkowski Jordan Reed & Austin Sefarian-Jenkins
K: Goskowski
DEF: Kansas City
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RB: Dalvin Cook, Giovani Bernard, Rex Burkhead, Mike Davis, Duke Johnson, D'onta Foreman, Elijah McGuire & Tion Green
WR: Allen Robinson, Robby Anderson, Corey Coleman, Jordan Matthews, Josh Gordon & Josh Reynolds
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce, Austin Sefarian-Jenkinss, Gerald Everett, George Kittle & Adam Shaheen
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
"Could be". You're trading a guy who has produced a 111/1521/11 line in the National Football League AND two 1st round picks, for a higher 1st round pick that "might" turn into a player that produces something similar to what Nuk has produced in the NFL...spotxc wrote:Plus Hopkins isn't looking top 5 wr anymore. More like top 10. Not so crazy when I think about it. Could be top 5-10 asset that's of more use/scarce for a top 15 asset and 2 late firsts. Where I have plenty of WRs already. Value wise yes but winning wise not sure
There are 3 rbs with far higher points than any wr in my league. They win championships, not an abundance of wrs
This is insanity. It's one thing if you want to trade Hopkins by himself for the 1.01 or 1.02. While I still think that is crazy, I can at least understand the thought process. But Hopkins PLUS TWO 1sts? Insanity.
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
So my league is like this also! Top RB's are never available. They don't follow dynasty rules like other leagues do and most guys are more of redraft type players. Here is how I won:
1. Keep offering packages for top RB's (be the guy that everyone goes to 1st when they want to trade so if one shakes loose your in the bidding)
2. Buy backups like a mo-fo lol Washingtons, Bibbs,
3. Buy veteran producers: Think Gore/Forte and expect to fill in some injuries
You won't have to spend your prime WR capital to get those older guys and when injuries occur your capitalizing. I just traded up up up for the top WRs and am not stashing middle of the road talent b/c my league doesn't value them. As soon as a Crowder or Diggs flashes I move them to cash in
1. Keep offering packages for top RB's (be the guy that everyone goes to 1st when they want to trade so if one shakes loose your in the bidding)
2. Buy backups like a mo-fo lol Washingtons, Bibbs,
3. Buy veteran producers: Think Gore/Forte and expect to fill in some injuries
You won't have to spend your prime WR capital to get those older guys and when injuries occur your capitalizing. I just traded up up up for the top WRs and am not stashing middle of the road talent b/c my league doesn't value them. As soon as a Crowder or Diggs flashes I move them to cash in
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QB: Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers
RB: Le'Veon Bell, Devonta Freeman ,Mark Ingram, Rex Burkhead, Danny Woodhead
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Brandin Cooks, Dez Bryant, Sammy Watkins, Josh Gordon, John Brown, Devin Funchess, Terrelle Pryor & Cameron Meredith
TE: Rob Gronkowski Jordan Reed & Austin Sefarian-Jenkins
K: Goskowski
DEF: Kansas City
12 team 0.5 PPR 23 roster spot : QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, TE, R/W/T-Flex, K & Def
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RB: Dalvin Cook, Giovani Bernard, Rex Burkhead, Mike Davis, Duke Johnson, D'onta Foreman, Elijah McGuire & Tion Green
WR: Allen Robinson, Robby Anderson, Corey Coleman, Jordan Matthews, Josh Gordon & Josh Reynolds
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce, Austin Sefarian-Jenkinss, Gerald Everett, George Kittle & Adam Shaheen
K: Matt Bryant
Def: Eagles
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QB: Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers
RB: Le'Veon Bell, Devonta Freeman ,Mark Ingram, Rex Burkhead, Danny Woodhead
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Brandin Cooks, Dez Bryant, Sammy Watkins, Josh Gordon, John Brown, Devin Funchess, Terrelle Pryor & Cameron Meredith
TE: Rob Gronkowski Jordan Reed & Austin Sefarian-Jenkins
K: Goskowski
DEF: Kansas City
12 team 0.5 PPR 23 roster spot : QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, TE, R/W/T-Flex, K & Def
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RB: Dalvin Cook, Giovani Bernard, Rex Burkhead, Mike Davis, Duke Johnson, D'onta Foreman, Elijah McGuire & Tion Green
WR: Allen Robinson, Robby Anderson, Corey Coleman, Jordan Matthews, Josh Gordon & Josh Reynolds
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce, Austin Sefarian-Jenkinss, Gerald Everett, George Kittle & Adam Shaheen
K: Matt Bryant
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
I've gone on record stating that I want this year's 1.01 over Hopkins and I'm not backing down from that. Having said that, this is just insane. It's basically getting Hopkins/1.09 just to move back 6 spots from 1.02 to 1.08.
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Re: 1.02 vs Hopkins+1.08+1.09
Hopkins and the picks. Its not even close.
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