Cooks or top 4 pick?

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Cooks or top 4 pick?

Cooks
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Top 4 pick
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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:11 am

schiewerma21 wrote:Fair question and I break it down like this.

1.1 or 1.2 it's easy to pick.

1.3 (mike Williams) I would say it's a wash. Probably keep the proven player.

1.4 easy cooks.

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby pokerface40 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:52 am

Crwdstunna wrote:Does this result surprise others like it surprises me?
Surprises the hell outta me. What exactly has Cooks proven? That he's a boom or bust WR2 with an aging QB. Gimme a top 4 2017 1st over Cooks all day.

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby saw061600 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:33 am

Picks are worth the least right now; I'd need more than a single first to move Cooks.
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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby thomasscheeks » Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:11 am

Crwdstunna wrote:Does this result surprise others like it surprises me?
It's not really all that surprising honestly. I sold the 2016 1.01 for Cooks and TY (post draft though)
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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby footballjohnny » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:45 am

I'd go with Cooks. I go with proven talent over rookie picks most of the time.

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby Space Cowboy » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:02 pm

Cooks is way overrated around here, but he's worth more than just a 1st rounder. Easy decline to me.

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby dipANDglide » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:41 pm

Give me Cook, Fournette, Davis, or JuJu over Cooks.

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby mrmagloo » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:54 pm

I'd keep Cooks. Last week was abnormal. Bird in the hand.
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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby D5251 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 5:15 pm

Cooks unless it's a top 2 or maybe 3.
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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby pvillebiker » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:58 pm

I'll be the contrarian then as I think one could make a compelling case that Cooks has peeked. With Michael Thomas already taking on WR1 in NO, and Snead not going anywhere, Cooks has had 3 years to establish himself. He's a great WR2, but will always be boom or bust. Factor in Brees is in decline and maybe the light flickers on for Fleener this coming year, and no way am I paying an upper end 1st round pick for Cooks. Especially in this upcoming stacked '17 class. Good luck,

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby Factory of Sadness » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:26 am

I think this is a little more complicated than '1st/2nd rd start-up for rookie picks.' Michael Thomas looks like a legitimate threat to be the no1 there, Brees doesn't have very much longer and there's no certainty that Cooks is still so highly rated next year.

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:01 am

Factory of Sadness wrote:I think this is a little more complicated than '1st/2nd rd start-up for rookie picks.' Michael Thomas looks like a legitimate threat to be the no1 there, Brees doesn't have very much longer and there's no certainty that Cooks is still so highly rated next year.
Current pace for NO WR's:

Thomas: 95/1148/10
Cooks: 74/1071/9
Snead: 74/863/6

I think the Thomas vs. Cooks angle is being overplayed. There's plenty of room for them to both succeed. Not to mention, Cooks by himself is a 1st round WR, with elite college production, big time athleticism and speed. I would be mindful of what rookie pick you're trading him for. To me, it'd have to be a Top 2 pick. Otherwise, I'm keeping the 23-year-old WR who already has a WR1 season under his belt.

And just like Tom Brady, we figure that he doesn't have much longer, but he's still producing at an elite level. Brees is on pace for 5217 yards and 44 TD's. I'd say he's got another 3-4 years left, which is enough time to not negatively impact someone's dynasty outlook. It'd be different if he were doing what Carson Palmer is right now.

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby Payton34 » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:22 am

I like Fournette, Cook, M Williams and JuJu more than Cooks based on potential, but it's a tough call for me...

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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby MEuRaH » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:37 am

I like the 1.04 atm, but most don't, so I'd counter with Cooks for 1st/2nd or something.
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Re: Cooks or top 4 pick?

Postby Plank » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:49 pm

as each day passes, Cooks usage seems to be closer to DJax then TY .. I take the pick..
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