RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.
User avatar
cuztank
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 446
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:29 am

RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby cuztank » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:37 am

His RB Matt Jones for my WR Laquon Treadwell? He proposed the trade. Treadwell was a mid-late first round rookie draft pick for me this year and I Tevin Coleman is really my only RB moving forward.

First team in sig.
Dynasty 12 Team Non-PPR League - 2RB, 3WR, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE) - Rosters 30
QB - Brady, Siemian, Romo(INJ)
RB - Coleman, Foster, Spiller, Bush, McFadden (IR), A.Williams, Dunbar
WR - Crabtree, Alshon, Nelson, Dez (INJ), Floyd (AZ), Seth Roberts, DeVante Parker, Cordarrelle, Treadwell, Goodwin,
TE - Gronk, Z.Miller, Witten
Flex - Hogan
Flex - Pryor
K - Boswell
DST - Dolphins, Redskins, Lions

Dynasty 8 Team Non-PPR League - 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE) - Rosters 30
QB - Brady, Dalton, Romo (INJ)
RB - DeMarco, J.Hill, Yeldon, A.Williams, K.Davis, Dunbar, Blue
WR - Alshon, Dez, Moncrief, M.Jones, Cruz, Funchess, D.Smith, B.Coleman, Hankerson, White, Dobson
TE - Gronk, Cameron
Flex - Maclin
Flex - Floyd (Ari)
Flex - DeAngelo
K - Boswell
DST - Chiefs, Dolphins, Bills
Reserve - None

Thedudewhogetshigh
Starter
Starter
Posts: 571
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:28 am

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby Thedudewhogetshigh » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:42 am

cuztank wrote:His RB Matt Jones for my WR Laquon Treadwell? He proposed the trade. Treadwell was a mid-late first round rookie draft pick for me this year and I Tevin Coleman is really my only RB moving forward.

First team in sig.
Not a chance. If you really need the RB depth you should be able to get a better RB than Matt Jones.
Team 1.
16 team 24 man roster.
1 Qb 2 Rb 2 Wr 1 flex 1 d 1 k
Qb: Goff, Lynch, Garrapolo
Rb: Cook, Henry, Dixon, Tolbert
WR: OBJ, AROB, C Coleman, J Schuster, R Anderson K White, B Perriman, M Mitchell, L Treadwell, R Higgins G Allison
TE: J Gresham Butt Gathers
D: San Diego Defence
K: D Hopkins,
Team 2. 16 teams
1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 2 flex 1 superflex 2te
Qb: C Wentz K Cousins J Garrapalo
RB: D Cook J Mixon Du Johnson T Rawls O Darkwa C carson
Wr: A Brown AJ Green J Jones A Robinson D Funchess C Coleman Q Enuwa B Ellington J Reynolds
TE: H Henry C Fleener A Derby

Team 3. 16 team
1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 d 1k
Qb: C Wentz
Rb: D Cook Mixon K Dixon, M Mack M Tolbert
Wr: M Evans, O Beckham M Thomas Q Enuwa Z Jones C Godwin
TE: A Hooper
D: Jaguars
K: M Prater

koalabear
Captain
Captain
Posts: 879
Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:12 am

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby koalabear » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:09 am

cuztank wrote:His RB Matt Jones for my WR Laquon Treadwell? He proposed the trade. Treadwell was a mid-late first round rookie draft pick for me this year and I Tevin Coleman is really my only RB moving forward.

First team in sig.
No way man. Hold Laquon and draft an RB in 2017, they'll be plenty of good ones available.
1. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE. Yr 7
QB: Murray, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Sanders, Pearce
WR: Jefferson, Burks, JuJu
TE: Goedert, Everett
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

2. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE. Yr 6.
QB: Jackson, Allen
RB: Akers, CEH
WR: Chase, M Brown, Pittman, M Williams
TE: Tonyan, Hooper
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

3. 12 team superflex, PPR (WR/RB/TE 1/1.25/1.5). Start 1-2 QB, 1-7 RB, WR, TE. Yr 5.
QB: Jackson, Prescott, Brady
RB: Singletary, Harris
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Burks, Evans, Lockett
TE: Hockenson
2023: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

KCLep20
Player of the Year
Player of the Year
Posts: 2206
Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:05 pm

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby KCLep20 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:10 am

I'd consider it. I've got Treadwell and I'm starting to get concerned.....I know it's the long game in dynasty, but the dude is behind mediocre talents when his talent alone should have him starting.
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex (RB/WR/TE)/1 Superflex (QB/RB/WR/TE)
'Ships: 2008, 2017, 2019, 2021; 2nd place: 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022
12 team PPR with 14 Keepers/year
2023 Draft Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11, 3.04, 3.07, 5.04
QB: L.Jackson, J. Burrow, G. Minshew, J. Winston
RB: J.Mixon, ETN, Jav.Williams, J.Conner, Z.Moss, JK Dobbins (IR), N.Chubb (IR)
WR: AJB, CD Lamb, DK, C.Sutton
TE: M.Andrews, T.McBride, I. Likely

User avatar
tomfin2000
Starter
Starter
Posts: 626
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:02 pm
Location: Jacksonville, FL

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby tomfin2000 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:16 am

I was contemplating making a move for Jones myself since I know his owner is looking to sell and I'm hurting at RB, but here's the thought I can't get out of my head:

With such a great crop of RBs entering the draft next year, there are going to be plenty of good to very good RBs available on Days 2 and 3. So why should the Redskins continue to fool around with Matt Jones, his inconsistency, and his fumbling issues when they can get a Gallman, a Perine, a Conner, etc.? This is a killer draft if you're looking for a solid, early down, between the tackles RB.

Now I'm not a Treadwell fan. The Vikings will kill his value. The fact that he's seeing very little playing time is a good example of the problems up there. It's taken them 4 freaking years to figure out that they need to utilize Patterson, so I think their conservative ways will stunt his growth. I'm all for moving him, but I agree that you can do better than Jones.

User avatar
Dynasty DeLorean
Degenerate
Degenerate
Posts: 8921
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:45 am

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:02 am

tomfin2000 wrote: I'm all for moving him, but I agree that you can do better than Jones.
That's kind of where I'm at as well. Treadwell will play eventually, he will have good games eventually. His value will shoot up and you can sell him then.

User avatar
cuztank
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 446
Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:29 am

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby cuztank » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:08 am

Thanks for the input everyone. Looks like I'll be sitting on it for now. I didn't realise Matt Jones is rated so low. Even though he's the most 'natural' receiving talent from the last draft, I've seen some critical reviews of Laquon coming out of college and he may never work out in the NFL due in part to lacking speed. No attitude issues to speak of though, which is a big plus. Traditionally year 3 was the year for WRs to break out, but that has been earlier over the past 5 years, as early as first year, which makes it difficult to play the long game when I'm in dire need of starting RB help and think I'm ready to compete now and into the future. Unfortunately I tend to do well or middling to well, so it's annoying getting later draft picks despite no big time success. It's a frustrating middle ground. Looks like I'll ride Foster into the ground until he retires, but it looks as if he may have already lost the #1 job to Ajayi.
Dynasty 12 Team Non-PPR League - 2RB, 3WR, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE) - Rosters 30
QB - Brady, Siemian, Romo(INJ)
RB - Coleman, Foster, Spiller, Bush, McFadden (IR), A.Williams, Dunbar
WR - Crabtree, Alshon, Nelson, Dez (INJ), Floyd (AZ), Seth Roberts, DeVante Parker, Cordarrelle, Treadwell, Goodwin,
TE - Gronk, Z.Miller, Witten
Flex - Hogan
Flex - Pryor
K - Boswell
DST - Dolphins, Redskins, Lions

Dynasty 8 Team Non-PPR League - 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE) - Rosters 30
QB - Brady, Dalton, Romo (INJ)
RB - DeMarco, J.Hill, Yeldon, A.Williams, K.Davis, Dunbar, Blue
WR - Alshon, Dez, Moncrief, M.Jones, Cruz, Funchess, D.Smith, B.Coleman, Hankerson, White, Dobson
TE - Gronk, Cameron
Flex - Maclin
Flex - Floyd (Ari)
Flex - DeAngelo
K - Boswell
DST - Chiefs, Dolphins, Bills
Reserve - None

Martpe
Captain
Captain
Posts: 781
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:03 pm

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby Martpe » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:31 am

Think you are making a good choice of sitting
Team 1, 0.5 PPR SuperFlex: QB, FlexQB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Flex
QB: Watson, Herbert (Mariota)
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Dobbins (Akers, K Herbert)
WR: DJ Moore, Woods, Golladay (T Patrick, Shenault, Rondale M, Cephus)
TE: Goedert (Njoku, Bryant, Trautman)
Pick 1.01

User avatar
The.Big.Spank
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5735
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:27 am

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:13 am

KCLep20 wrote:I'd consider it. I've got Treadwell and I'm starting to get concerned.....I know it's the long game in dynasty, but the dude is behind mediocre talents when his talent alone should have him starting.
For what it is worth. My arch rival, enemy and friend is a Vikings fan who drafted Treadwell right ahead of me. I have been giving him crap about the very thing you mentioned. He says he has done a lot of research on this and the coach does not start rookies. I find this a little hard to believe because Diggs started last year and he was a rookie. Point being he assures me that this is a "how I run my team decision" more than Treadwell is a bust.

I am still leaning towards Treadwell being an average receiver (WR 20) when it finally all comes around for him. Vikings will never be a big passing team, so his usage will always be questionable and ceiling limited.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

User avatar
The.Big.Spank
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5735
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:27 am

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:24 am

I don't like this trade for you. Your starting WR's are have been untrustworthy. Your up and coming WR has not really shown enough to trust them either. More the reason to keep them and give them some time. Treadwell will be more valuable to you in the long term. You would be buying high on Jones right now.

In defense of your trade proposal, I have been a defender of Jones as a fantasy asset all summer long. I like Jones, more for his offensive situation & opportunities than him being a stunning talent. Gurley is a stunning talent in a crappy situation with a lot of opportunities. Production wise, Jones is besting him. Good situation and a ton of touches is the key at RB because they are so quickly disposal.
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer

Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st

Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,

DrNoish
All Pro
All Pro
Posts: 1604
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:51 pm

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby DrNoish » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:41 am

Gross


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
12 Team PPR 1QB - 1RB - 1WR - 2RB/WR - 1TE

KUPP the Balls
QB- Herbert, Hurts, Newton
RB- Montgomery, RoJo, Lindsay, Michel, Gurley, Vaughn, Foreman
WR- Lamb, Hopkins, Beckham, Metcalf, Cooks
TE- Kelce, Ertz
Picks 1.11, 2.04, 2022 1st

User avatar
Dynasty DeLorean
Degenerate
Degenerate
Posts: 8921
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:45 am

Re: RB Matt Jones for WR Laquon Treadwell?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:33 pm

Matt Jones stinks confirmed.


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: sconnie21 and 76 guests