Moving on from Dez...
Moving on from Dez...
So I guess I'm just tired of waiting but considering throwing out Dez and TWest for TY Hilton in team 1. Thoughts?
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Re: Moving on from Dez...
I prefer Dez over TY so wouldn't be adding to him. If contending and TY puts you over the top I could understand straight up swap but not adding to Dez.
Team 1: France Les Bleus: 20 team .5 ppr dynasty league. Starters in Bold
QB: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliot, Alex Collins, D'onta Foreman, Chris Carson, James White, Kenneth Dixon
WR: Mike Williams, Chris Godwin, DJ Moore, Laquon Treadwell, Taywan Taylor, Josh Malone
TE: Eric Ebron, Hunter Henry, Adam Shaheen
D/ST: Patriots, Saints
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QB: Patrick Mahommes, Josh Rosen
RB: Royce Freeman, Nick Chubb, Phillip Lindsay, Derius Guice, Melvin Gordon
WR: DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Desean Hamilton, Laquon Treadwell, Equanimous St. Brown, James Washington
TE: Gerald Everett, Adam Shaheen, Hunter Henry
Def: Titans
QB: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliot, Alex Collins, D'onta Foreman, Chris Carson, James White, Kenneth Dixon
WR: Mike Williams, Chris Godwin, DJ Moore, Laquon Treadwell, Taywan Taylor, Josh Malone
TE: Eric Ebron, Hunter Henry, Adam Shaheen
D/ST: Patriots, Saints
Team 2: New England Patriots: 24 Team standard league. Starters in Bold
QB: Patrick Mahommes, Josh Rosen
RB: Royce Freeman, Nick Chubb, Phillip Lindsay, Derius Guice, Melvin Gordon
WR: DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Desean Hamilton, Laquon Treadwell, Equanimous St. Brown, James Washington
TE: Gerald Everett, Adam Shaheen, Hunter Henry
Def: Titans
Re: Moving on from Dez...
Right now is not the time to sell Dez. Wait till he comes back and has some good games.
14 team, (1 QB 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, IDP) PPR
QB: Bress, Newton, Trubisky
RB: Kamara, Mixon, K, Johnson. Lindsey, Justice Hill.
WR: Hopkins, Evans, Mike Williams, A Robbison, Godwin, Deebo Samuel. H, Butler.
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Fant
QB: Bress, Newton, Trubisky
RB: Kamara, Mixon, K, Johnson. Lindsey, Justice Hill.
WR: Hopkins, Evans, Mike Williams, A Robbison, Godwin, Deebo Samuel. H, Butler.
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Fant
Re: Moving on from Dez...
Agree with the above. Bad time to trade Dez and I definitely wouldn't add to him to get Hilton.
On a side note, I noticed you have Ameer on both of your teams and one is actually named after him. I assume you're a Husker fan?
On a side note, I noticed you have Ameer on both of your teams and one is actually named after him. I assume you're a Husker fan?
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
Re: Moving on from Dez...
To your side note...not a Husker fan...a Buckeye fan...watched him play many of times to know how BA he is.M-Dub wrote:Agree with the above. Bad time to trade Dez and I definitely wouldn't add to him to get Hilton.
On a side note, I noticed you have Ameer on both of your teams and one is actually named after him. I assume you're a Husker fan?
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Re: Moving on from Dez...
I understand trying to get out from under Dez, but a total sell low now.BhamRudy wrote:Right now is not the time to sell Dez. Wait till he comes back and has some good games.
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RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
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2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
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Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
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Re: Moving on from Dez...
I don't think this is a terrible deal. Hilton isn't as good as Dez, but he still puts up WR1 numbers. He's on pace for 101/1483/8 this season. It's a potential undersell if Dez returns to form, but not by a ton. If you're in a situation to win now, I could totally see trading Dez for Hilton.
Re: Moving on from Dez...
Yes...for team 1 I am currently sitting in 2nd place in division and 4th place overall with a 4-2 record and that was riding the Brady/Gronk storm of the first 4 weeks. Guy who is first in my division just lost Lacy, has an injured Big Ben (with Brown), and has Hyde as well. Not quiet sure how long West is going to keep up from the past couple weeks, but I just don't see him moving with the same steam. Hilton, with the exception of last week, has been on fire. He is young, is currently the second leading target receiver, and is in a high powered offense. I know this is potentially selling Dez low, but I think it puts my in win mode.Cameron Giles wrote:I don't think this is a terrible deal. Hilton isn't as good as Dez, but he still puts up WR1 numbers. He's on pace for 101/1483/8 this season. It's a potential undersell if Dez returns to form, but not by a ton. If you're in a situation to win now, I could totally see trading Dez for Hilton.
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Re: Moving on from Dez...
I wouldn't add to Dez to get TY
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- TLaw, Stafford,
RB-
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TE- Engram, Schultz
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Re: Moving on from Dez...
I've had Dez for four years just traded him straight up for TY have no quarrels about it and not looking back it's been one headache after another and not near the consistent production I want.
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RB-David Johnson, A. Peaterson, C.Hyde, A.Abdullah, M.Jones, J.McKinnon, C.Micheal, T.Rawls
WR-AJ.Green, D.Bryant, M.Evens, K.White J.Gordon, N.Agholor, D.Baldwin, M. Wallace, Q.Enunwa, A.Humphries
TE-T.Kelce, J.Reed, J.James, D.Pitta
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DL-C.Jones, Quinn
DB-M.Burnett, J.Cyprien
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DL-C.Jones, Quinn
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Re: Moving on from Dez...
I thought I'd depress myself so I looked at Dez's stats since I took him at 1.04 in a start up draft before the the 2015 season - 42/551/4 in 12 games.
Still not selling him cheap though.
Still not selling him cheap though.
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QB: Murray, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Sanders, Pearce
WR: Jefferson, Burks, JuJu
TE: Goedert, Everett
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
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QB: Jackson, Allen
RB: Akers, CEH
WR: Chase, M Brown, Pittman, M Williams
TE: Tonyan, Hooper
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QB: Jackson, Prescott, Brady
RB: Singletary, Harris
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Burks, Evans, Lockett
TE: Hockenson
2023: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
QB: Murray, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Sanders, Pearce
WR: Jefferson, Burks, JuJu
TE: Goedert, Everett
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
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QB: Jackson, Allen
RB: Akers, CEH
WR: Chase, M Brown, Pittman, M Williams
TE: Tonyan, Hooper
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
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QB: Jackson, Prescott, Brady
RB: Singletary, Harris
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Burks, Evans, Lockett
TE: Hockenson
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Re: Moving on from Dez...
I feel your pain. I traded Watkins and Parker for him a few weeks into 2015 because I was in serious contention. He's been useless ever since, and that trade ultimately cost me the championship after Watkins finished strong.koalabear wrote:I thought I'd depress myself so I looked at Dez's stats since I took him at 1.04 in a start up draft before the the 2015 season - 42/551/4 in 12 games.
Still not selling him cheap though.
I cannot WAIT to unload Dez, but like everyone else, I'll be damned if I''m going to do it now.
As for the TY trade, I agree that I would only pull the trigger if I was pretty certain I was going deep into the playoffs.
Re: Moving on from Dez...
With all of this...the owner of TY has decided not to trade him...welp.
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Re: Moving on from Dez...
Dynasty football requires patience. Sometimes you have to wait on a struggling player. Dez is still Dez. He will bounce back. He may not ever be a top 5 wr anymore, but he is hands down a better talent than TY.. Don't panic when a player is struggling.
Now if you NEED to make a move to win now, and you feel like a player can help you get over that hump, you make the deal. But I wouldn't recommend trading Dez for Ty, especially not if you would need to add a decent RB.
Now if you NEED to make a move to win now, and you feel like a player can help you get over that hump, you make the deal. But I wouldn't recommend trading Dez for Ty, especially not if you would need to add a decent RB.
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QBs - Bridgewater, Cousins, Darnold, Rudolph
RBs - Miles Sanders, Ronald Jones, Mixon, Fournette, Mike Davis, Gio Bernard, T. Coleman, Damien Williams, Love
WRs - DHop, Chris Godwin, DK Metcalf, DJ Chark, Beckham Jr, DJ Moore, Sutton, Kirk, Edelman, Tre'Quan Smith, Anthony Miller, Van Jefferson, Jalen Guyton, Peoples-Jones, Marcus Johnson
TEs- Kittle, Hockenson, Tonyan, Njoku, Trautman
IDP: Lavonte David, Roquan Smith
K: Greg Zuerlein
Team 2: 12 Team PPR 1QB, 3RB, 4WR, 1TE, 1FLEX
QBs - Josh Allen, Matt Ryan, Lock, Eason
RBs - Barkley, Cook, Swift, Cam Akers, Mack, K. Johnson,
WRs - Michael Thomas, A Robinson II, Chark Jr, Tee Higgins, Woods, Sutton, B Edwards, Hardman, Zach Pascal, Van Jefferson, Berrios, Gandy-Golden, Tyler Johnson, P Campbell
TE - Fant, Ebron, Kmet
QBs - Bridgewater, Cousins, Darnold, Rudolph
RBs - Miles Sanders, Ronald Jones, Mixon, Fournette, Mike Davis, Gio Bernard, T. Coleman, Damien Williams, Love
WRs - DHop, Chris Godwin, DK Metcalf, DJ Chark, Beckham Jr, DJ Moore, Sutton, Kirk, Edelman, Tre'Quan Smith, Anthony Miller, Van Jefferson, Jalen Guyton, Peoples-Jones, Marcus Johnson
TEs- Kittle, Hockenson, Tonyan, Njoku, Trautman
IDP: Lavonte David, Roquan Smith
K: Greg Zuerlein
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QBs - Josh Allen, Matt Ryan, Lock, Eason
RBs - Barkley, Cook, Swift, Cam Akers, Mack, K. Johnson,
WRs - Michael Thomas, A Robinson II, Chark Jr, Tee Higgins, Woods, Sutton, B Edwards, Hardman, Zach Pascal, Van Jefferson, Berrios, Gandy-Golden, Tyler Johnson, P Campbell
TE - Fant, Ebron, Kmet
Re: Moving on from Dez...
I'm guessing this is going to look better and better that you didn't get this deal done. Mostly bc I think TY couldn't be more expensive with Moncrief out. Those guys prior to the injury were sharing the WR1 duty, and TY's touches are going to drop some when Donte comes back.
12 team, .5pt PPR, 1-Round Devy League
1QB: Brady, Carr
2RB: Bell, Howard, Shady, D.Williams, Morris
3WR: Dez, Hopkins, Edelman, Moncrief, Lockett, Boyd, Sharpe, Humphries
1TE: Olson
1FLEX
1D/ST: Vikings
1K: Stephen Gostkowski
Devy: Fournette, Mike Williams, Guice, Kirk
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1QB: Brady, Carr
2RB: Bell, Howard, Shady, D.Williams, Morris
3WR: Dez, Hopkins, Edelman, Moncrief, Lockett, Boyd, Sharpe, Humphries
1TE: Olson
1FLEX
1D/ST: Vikings
1K: Stephen Gostkowski
Devy: Fournette, Mike Williams, Guice, Kirk
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