Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Which Side is Better?

Dez Side
16
39%
Antonio Brown Side
25
61%
 
Total votes: 41

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Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby kypniloc1342 » Sat May 07, 2016 5:22 pm

I just completed this trade in our 10 team superflex league (league in signature):

Gave - Dez, Doug Martin, Ertz, 1.08, 3.25, 3.28

Received - Antonio Brown, Mark Ingram, 1.07

Some others in the league aren't pleased about this trade. The owner I traded with just came into the league and took over an orphan team that is solid, but unspectacular (before trade: Matt Ryan, Stafford, Cutler, McCoy, Ivory, Ingram, McKinnon, Karlos Williams, J-Stew, A Brown, Lockett, Megatron (whoopsie), Davante Adams, Gates, Martellus, Jordan Cameron).

I put in a poll but would be interested in what people think. Trade rape or fair or somewhere in between?
10 team superflex (5 pts passing TD, 1.0 PPR, & .15 PPC) 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, 1 Superflex, 1 K

QB - Rodgers, Dak, Tyrod, McCown, McCarron
RB - Fournette, Mixon, Miller, Ingram, CJA, Lacy, Marshawn, Foreman, D-Wash, Richard, M Davis
WR - AB, Hopkins, Sammy, Demaryius, Hurns, Chris Godwin
TE - Kelce, Clay, Ebron
K - Who cares

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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby Missile » Sat May 07, 2016 5:35 pm

I like Brown side but there is nothing to cry about here at all.

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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby Draft Master » Sat May 07, 2016 5:39 pm

Who cares who is happy or not, its your team not the leagues, but the trade is on the light side, Ertz, 3.25, 3.28 got you AB for Dez, D Mart and Ingram is a wash.

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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby vixen » Sat May 07, 2016 5:45 pm

would rather antonio by quite a bit.

what is pick 3.25 and 3.28 in a 10 team league?
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby James Rustler » Sat May 07, 2016 6:13 pm

kypniloc1342 wrote:I just completed this trade in our 10 team superflex league (league in signature):

Gave - Dez, Doug Martin, Ertz, 1.08, 3.25, 3.28

Received - Antonio Brown, Mark Ingram, 1.07

Some others in the league aren't pleased about this trade. The owner I traded with just came into the league and took over an orphan team that is solid, but unspectacular (before trade: Matt Ryan, Stafford, Cutler, McCoy, Ivory, Ingram, McKinnon, Karlos Williams, J-Stew, A Brown, Lockett, Megatron (whoopsie), Davante Adams, Gates, Martellus, Jordan Cameron).

I put in a poll but would be interested in what people think. Trade rape or fair or somewhere in between?
I think its fair if he is rebuilding. I mean you sold him short with regard to the draft picks but the volume of what you gave him helps him and you get AB
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WR: Mike Evans, A. Cooper, Devante Parker
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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby colonnaj94 » Sat May 07, 2016 8:34 pm

Completely fair.
No issue with it.
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RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

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RB Mixon, Pierce, Najee Harris, Kelley
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LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sat May 07, 2016 9:17 pm

Just a preference trade. Don't see a problem with it
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby jryanw » Sat May 07, 2016 9:21 pm

You won the trade for 16 but I think Dez Martin Ertz is more valuble in 17 and beyond than AB and Ingram.
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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby skip » Sun May 08, 2016 2:00 am

This is exactly why leagues shouldn't have vetos. You have "some owners" questioning a perfectly balanced trade... Imagine what the reaction is to one that actually has questions.
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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby BuckeyeNation » Sun May 08, 2016 2:09 am

Not sure what the 3.25 and 3.28 picks are in a 10 team league, but I'm assuming they're a moot point in a trade like this.

I want the Brown side, but this trade is far from being "controversy" worthy. It's probably much more fair that the average trade that goes down in a random dynasty league.
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Wilson/Mariota
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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby Overachiever77 » Sun May 08, 2016 6:14 am

BuckeyeNation wrote:Not sure what the 3.25 and 3.28 picks are in a 10 team league, but I'm assuming they're a moot point in a trade like this.

I want the Brown side, but this trade is far from being "controversy" worthy. It's probably much more fair that the average trade that goes down in a random dynasty league.
I'd guess round 3 picks 25 and 28 overall. AKA 3.05 and 3.08?
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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby smithmn » Sun May 08, 2016 6:15 am

I'd definitely take the Antonio Brown side, but we aren't even in the realm of "trade rape" in my opinion.

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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby SpartyOn » Sun May 08, 2016 6:19 am

Missile wrote:I like Brown side but there is nothing to cry about here at all.
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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby saw061600 » Sun May 08, 2016 6:26 am

Seems fair to me.
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Re: Completed Trade - Controversy Ensues

Postby Nightmares » Sun May 08, 2016 8:23 am

Fair deal.


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