M Ingram or pick 1.5

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M. Ingram or 1.5

Ingram
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1.5
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M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby Giants13 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:00 pm

Torn on this value wise thanks for the help.

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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby Titanium Miss » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:05 pm

Ingram. I value him at about 1.4-1.3 or so, I guess it's close if you are not a fan, but I personally am.
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby chipadelphia » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:06 pm

Ingram for me here too, pretty easily.
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby Coogan Football » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:08 pm

My choice in this should be pretty easy to tell.....homerism aside I'd still prefer Ingram.
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TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:12 pm

Ingram always seems undervalued on boards, but i can never get a deal like this for him. I'd probably give 1.2 in this class for him if i needed an RB. He was super solid last season, and i don't see any reason for that to change this year or next.
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby Titanium Miss » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:13 pm

also agree he is undervalued -
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby Giants13 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:23 pm

I agree he's solid as hell and if I thought he would stay healthy he's worth the 1.2 easily.

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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby Valhalla » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:35 pm

Ingram vote again

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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby moishetreats » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:29 pm

jtd1387 wrote:Ingram always seems undervalued on boards, but i can never get a deal like this for him. I'd probably give 1.2 in this class for him if i needed an RB. He was super solid last season, and i don't see any reason for that to change this year or next.
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Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex/ best ball

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RB: Crowell (7/19), Conner (4/19), A Jones (10/19), J Williams (14/19), Allen (1/20), Sproles (1/18), Richard (1/18) {Foreman (9/20), McGuire (1/20), Warren (1/20)}
WR: Cooks, (1/19), Grant (1/20), Humphries (1/18), D Jackson (1/18), Sanu (1/18), A Wilson (1/20), Valdez-Scantling (1/22), {Kumerow 1/20}
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby stoneghost28 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:39 pm

Consider what's likely to be available at 1.5 based on ADP/rankings: M. Thomas/S. Shepard/T. Boyd/D. Henry/Caroo, do you honestly think any of those guys have a better than 50/50 chance of outproducing Ingram? Include the knowledge that Ingram is a tradtional 80's style bell cow back, and that the saints have gotten rid of Khiry Robinson, the only legit talent that can do what he can do on the roster, then add in that Ingram is the goal line back, and has been used a bit more in the passing game.

Now add in the fact that Ingram after being drafted in 2011, still has far fewer carries on his body than comparable running backs who got similar starters reps through their age 25 season (Peterson had 200+ more carries, McCoy had about 50+ more, and Peterson had two seasons with 300+ carries (one with nearly 370, another with 315+, McCoy had a top # of 268 if memory serves) and Ingram is the obvious choice. He's basically a lot like a RB entering his fourth season, in terms of age, and wear on the tires. He should be good for 2-4 more as a starter if he can shed the injury issues, maybe more if he beats the current trend of RB's being put out to pasture by the time their 28-31.

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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby nokoryous » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:55 pm

1.1 & 1.2 are the only picks more valuable than Mark Ingram in this class right now.
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby Coogan Football » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:10 am

stoneghost28 wrote:Consider what's likely to be available at 1.5 based on ADP/rankings: M. Thomas/S. Shepard/T. Boyd/D. Henry/Caroo, do you honestly think any of those guys have a better than 50/50 chance of outproducing Ingram? Include the knowledge that Ingram is a tradtional 80's style bell cow back, and that the saints have gotten rid of Khiry Robinson, the only legit talent that can do what he can do on the roster, then add in that Ingram is the goal line back, and has been used a bit more in the passing game.

Now add in the fact that Ingram after being drafted in 2011, still has far fewer carries on his body than comparable running backs who got similar starters reps through their age 25...He's basically a lot like a RB entering his fourth season, in terms of age, and wear on the tires. He should be good for 2-4 more as a starter if he can shed the injury issues, maybe more if he beats the current trend of RB's being put out to pasture by the time their 28-31
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WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby Martpe » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:17 am

Titanium Miss wrote:Ingram. I value him at about 1.4-1.3 or so, I guess it's close if you are not a fan, but I personally am.
Same position, in the area 1.035 :)
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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby tstafford » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:42 am

I'm with those who would consider paying the 1.02 for Ingram.

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Re: M Ingram or pick 1.5

Postby LaFleur42 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:12 am

Traded the 1.03 for him awhile ago (I happened to get that back in another trade) and would snap accept if I was giving up the 1.05.
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