What is DJ true value?

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What is DJ true value?

Postby Humble » Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:48 pm

I'm seeking unbiased and realistic opinions regarding the true value of DJ.

What is his value as a dynasty asset ?
Whom is he equivalent to in picks and wide receivers?

Please help me. I'm looking to sell but would like fair realistic compensation in return.

Thank you all.

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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby Flo1307 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:53 pm

His value is whatever the market will pay and at the moment that's a high price which is likely to only get higher after Arian's comments about him earning the role.

As an example about a month ago I traded DJ and a 2017 3rd for White and Moncrief straight up.

For team one in sig I was enquiring about DJ and offered Josh Gordon and one of my RBs and it was scoffed at. So that should give an idea of how high owners are on him.

Personally whilst I think he's a good back I don't see his value as that high however the market does so that is what you should be getting if you move him. Ideally target a young WR like white Parker DGB. Try and find the one owner in your league who loves him and will be willing to pay big to get him.
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby jarridgil » Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:45 am

Around the 1.3 I think his value is. In saying the 1.3 I personally would not give up a Parker or white for him but others are buying. The Alshon owner in our league was contemplating a straight swap for dj. Prices are high
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby tstafford » Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:05 am

I don't understand how he's not worth right around the 1.01. His ADP is higher than Elliot's, he has the job (clearly) and ARZ is a great situation for him. He wasn't as good a prospect as Elliot is so that cuts the other way. Seems like "owner's choice" b/w DJ and the 1.01 IMHO.

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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby People Mover » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:13 am

The owner in my league wants Sammy Watkins and Eddie Lacy for DJ and Ellington. So maybe that is a good start.

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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby Flo1307 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:25 am

People Mover wrote:The owner in my league wants Sammy Watkins and Eddie Lacy for DJ and Ellington. So maybe that is a good start.
That's just crazy.
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby crip7300 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:16 am

As a DJ owner I would want the 1.1 plus in this years draft or multiple high 1sts. As far as WR go I think he is in the White, Keenan, Parker range. DJ completely blew up the combine last year, he is a physical freak with WR like hands that weighs over 220, truly a rare specimen. Plus he is in a great situation for the next few years in that Arizona offense. Probably his biggest draw backs are his age, he was a 24 year old rookie last year and not 100% sold on his interior running ability. But everything else is freakishly good.
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby Humble » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:25 am

Seeking to gain value for this stud.

Any thoughts on securing: M. Evans and D. Freeman?

And possibly the 1.4 added.

Really having a difficult time assessing his value.

In my league seen owners overpay for lesser talents.

There are some in my league attempting to devalue him however, I know better.

I refuse to sell for pennies.

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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:28 am

His value is whatever someone in your league will pay... I've seen some crazy trades. It can't hurt to try and find an owner willing to massively overpay for him. I personally would not pay more than the 1.04 for him.

He's a freak athlete but a bad running back, that is propped up by a good situation. He is in no way proven, he only started 6 games. Five of those games were against teams in the bottom third of the league in run defense. The 1 game he played against a team who was not in the bottom third of the league in run defense he had 11 carries for 25 yards and 3 catches for 34 yards.

Not to mention the only reason he became the starter is Chris Johnson got hurt.. and guess who the Cardinals just resigned? Chris Johnson. If DJ was so good why did he play second fiddle to Chris for most of the season? Plus what happens if the situation changes? DJ saw a ton of 6-7 man boxes because defenses had to worry about the Cardinals awesome vertical passing game. If Carson Palmer gets hurt (again) then DJ is screwed. He does not have the natural talent at the RB position to consistently beat 8 man boxes like a player like Gurley or AP does.
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby People Mover » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:34 am

BelichekYourSelf wrote:His value is whatever someone in your league will pay... I've seen some crazy trades. It can't hurt to try and find an owner willing to massively overpay for him. I personally would not pay more than the 1.04 for him.

He's a freak athlete but a bad running back, that is propped up by a good situation. He is in no way proven, he only started 6 games. Five of those games were against teams in the bottom third of the league in run defense. The 1 game he played against a team who was not in the bottom third of the league in run defense he had 11 carries for 25 yards and 3 catches for 34 yards.

Not to mention the only reason he became the starter is Chris Johnson got hurt.. and guess who the Cardinals just resigned? Chris Johnson. If DJ was so good why did he play second fiddle to Chris for most of the season? Plus what happens if the situation changes? DJ saw a ton of 6-7 man boxes because defenses had to worry about the Cardinals awesome vertical passing game. If Carson Palmer gets hurt (again) then DJ is screwed. He does not have the natural talent at the RB position to consistently beat 8 man boxes like a player like Gurley or AP does.
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby People Mover » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:39 am

tstafford wrote:I don't understand how he's not worth right around the 1.01. His ADP is higher than Elliot's, he has the job (clearly) and ARZ is a great situation for him. He wasn't as good a prospect as Elliot is so that cuts the other way. Seems like "owner's choice" b/w DJ and the 1.01 IMHO.
Would you pay what the OP is asking?
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby Mefisto » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:53 am

BelichekYourSelf wrote:His value is whatever someone in your league will pay... I've seen some crazy trades. It can't hurt to try and find an owner willing to massively overpay for him. I personally would not pay more than the 1.04 for him.

He's a freak athlete but a bad running back, that is propped up by a good situation. He is in no way proven, he only started 6 games. Five of those games were against teams in the bottom third of the league in run defense. The 1 game he played against a team who was not in the bottom third of the league in run defense he had 11 carries for 25 yards and 3 catches for 34 yards.

Not to mention the only reason he became the starter is Chris Johnson got hurt.. and guess who the Cardinals just resigned? Chris Johnson. If DJ was so good why did he play second fiddle to Chris for most of the season? Plus what happens if the situation changes? DJ saw a ton of 6-7 man boxes because defenses had to worry about the Cardinals awesome vertical passing game. If Carson Palmer gets hurt (again) then DJ is screwed. He does not have the natural talent at the RB position to consistently beat 8 man boxes like a player like Gurley or AP does.
Exactly this. It was the perfect storm for DJ last year. Most importantly, if/when Palmer gets injured/retires (he's a fragile 37 years old!) DJ's production and value is going to plummet. You'll be lucky if he's worth half of what he's worth now in a year or 2.
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby Chocolate Droppa » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:08 am

Mefisto wrote:
BelichekYourSelf wrote:His value is whatever someone in your league will pay... I've seen some crazy trades. It can't hurt to try and find an owner willing to massively overpay for him. I personally would not pay more than the 1.04 for him.

He's a freak athlete but a bad running back, that is propped up by a good situation. He is in no way proven, he only started 6 games. Five of those games were against teams in the bottom third of the league in run defense. The 1 game he played against a team who was not in the bottom third of the league in run defense he had 11 carries for 25 yards and 3 catches for 34 yards.

Not to mention the only reason he became the starter is Chris Johnson got hurt.. and guess who the Cardinals just resigned? Chris Johnson. If DJ was so good why did he play second fiddle to Chris for most of the season? Plus what happens if the situation changes? DJ saw a ton of 6-7 man boxes because defenses had to worry about the Cardinals awesome vertical passing game. If Carson Palmer gets hurt (again) then DJ is screwed. He does not have the natural talent at the RB position to consistently beat 8 man boxes like a player like Gurley or AP does.
Exactly this. It was the perfect storm for DJ last year. Most importantly, if/when Palmer gets injured/retires (he's a fragile 37 years old!) DJ's production and value is going to plummet. You'll be lucky if he's worth half of what he's worth now in a year or 2.
Piling on here but if you can dupe some dumb-dumb into paying outrageous prices for a player whose value will never be higher, you have to do it! His value has inflated out of control and owners would be wise to capitalize. Dont let the haters get in your head bro. Sell sell sell and sell high!!!

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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:11 am

Humble wrote:Seeking to gain value for this stud.

Any thoughts on securing: M. Evans and D. Freeman?

And possibly the 1.4 added.

Really having a difficult time assessing his value.

In my league seen owners overpay for lesser talents.

There are some in my league attempting to devalue him however, I know better.

I refuse to sell for pennies.
Evans alone would be a massive steal for you. If you can get D. Freeman and/or the 1.04 on top of that you should be arrested for robbery.
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Re: What is DJ true value?

Postby People Mover » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:35 am

I think that is what he is looking for! Lol.
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