Sammy Trade

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Sammy Trade

Postby jarridgil » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:05 pm

12 Team League. Start 1qp/2rbs/2wrs/1te/1flx

Trade has been accepted.

My Sammy W + 2017 3rd
for His Devante Parker + Carlos Hyde + 2017 1st + 2017 2nd


Thought this was just too much value to pass on.
Whats the general thought on this trade?
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Rb. T coleman. J Howard. T Hightower. R MAthews. J Richard.K Marshall. D Williams
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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby Overachiever77 » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:08 pm

I like the Parker side. Tough to move Watkins but I think it's good value.
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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby Bad News Barrett » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:09 pm

I see the value but personally wouldn't trade Sammy. It's about 4 firsts value and a second, so it's about the right value to sell him if you are looking to move him
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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby nokoryous » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:12 pm

I like it. I'm a Parker believer, and Hyde is a good dice roll who could really step forward. 2017 1st are always nice :)
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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby alphaxray » Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:38 pm

Pretty fair trade. I love Sammy, but the Parker side is a good haul.

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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby doublesticks » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:06 pm

Interestingly enough, I traded Sammy for a similar package on Friday.

Sammy, A.Morris for Moncrief, Hyde, 1.05, 1.07 and Adams

I like Sammy, but I don't see the can't miss Elite WR that people are overpaying for...he is not Julio! There is obviously a lot of risk in trading a guy like him, but I felt like Moncrief is a similar talent, admittedly likely a tier behind, but in a better offense that could easily out produce him over the rest of their careers.

I feel like Hyde is going to be the guy that everyone is kicking themselves for not buying low on coming off an injury plagued season...top 5 RB upside, IMO.

I got 1.05 and 1.07 in my deal, I fully realize they are being devalued this year, but I like who will be there at 1.05 (plus I have pick 2 and 3) and I can sell 1.07 or take a shot at a guy that might fall due to situation.

If Sammy was the missing piece for my championship run, I wouldn't have made the deal, but for my rebuilding team, I LOVED turning 1 guy into 4 to fill holes and I really don't think it hurt my starting lineup in the grand scheme of things as I plan to add Treadwell and Doctson and take BPA at 1.05. I'm sure it isn't for everyone, but I liked my trade and got enough to justify the move for my team.

I think roster layout really determines this kind of trade. I got enough to move him, if you are high on Parker, then I think it will probably be a good trade for your team.
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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby pocylpse » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:26 pm

Fair trade to me...I would probably take the Parker side because I am a believer and all of the other pieces.
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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby ImaRounder » Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:55 pm

doublesticks wrote:Interestingly enough, I traded Sammy for a similar package on Friday.

Sammy, A.Morris for Moncrief, Hyde, 1.05, 1.07 and Adams

I like Sammy, but I don't see the can't miss Elite WR that people are overpaying for...he is not Julio! There is obviously a lot of risk in trading a guy like him, but I felt like Moncrief is a similar talent, admittedly likely a tier behind, but in a better offense that could easily out produce him over the rest of their careers.

I feel like Hyde is going to be the guy that everyone is kicking themselves for not buying low on coming off an injury plagued season...top 5 RB upside, IMO.

I got 1.05 and 1.07 in my deal, I fully realize they are being devalued this year, but I like who will be there at 1.05 (plus I have pick 2 and 3) and I can sell 1.07 or take a shot at a guy that might fall due to situation.

If Sammy was the missing piece for my championship run, I wouldn't have made the deal, but for my rebuilding team, I LOVED turning 1 guy into 4 to fill holes and I really don't think it hurt my starting lineup in the grand scheme of things as I plan to add Treadwell and Doctson and take BPA at 1.05. I'm sure it isn't for everyone, but I liked my trade and got enough to justify the move for my team.

I think roster layout really determines this kind of trade. I got enough to move him, if you are high on Parker, then I think it will probably be a good trade for your team.
Moncrief and Sammy are nowhere near the same talent

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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby Mitchdp2 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:22 am

ImaRounder wrote:
doublesticks wrote:Interestingly enough, I traded Sammy for a similar package on Friday.

Sammy, A.Morris for Moncrief, Hyde, 1.05, 1.07 and Adams

I like Sammy, but I don't see the can't miss Elite WR that people are overpaying for...he is not Julio! There is obviously a lot of risk in trading a guy like him, but I felt like Moncrief is a similar talent, admittedly likely a tier behind, but in a better offense that could easily out produce him over the rest of their careers.

I feel like Hyde is going to be the guy that everyone is kicking themselves for not buying low on coming off an injury plagued season...top 5 RB upside, IMO.

I got 1.05 and 1.07 in my deal, I fully realize they are being devalued this year, but I like who will be there at 1.05 (plus I have pick 2 and 3) and I can sell 1.07 or take a shot at a guy that might fall due to situation.

If Sammy was the missing piece for my championship run, I wouldn't have made the deal, but for my rebuilding team, I LOVED turning 1 guy into 4 to fill holes and I really don't think it hurt my starting lineup in the grand scheme of things as I plan to add Treadwell and Doctson and take BPA at 1.05. I'm sure it isn't for everyone, but I liked my trade and got enough to justify the move for my team.

I think roster layout really determines this kind of trade. I got enough to move him, if you are high on Parker, then I think it will probably be a good trade for your team.
Moncrief and Sammy are nowhere near the same talent
Agreed even mentioning them in the same sentence is absurd. It would not surprise me if Sammy came out with a breakout season to get to Julio's tier. His last 9 games were just absurd, and that was with a young QB with a blossoming chemistry against a fairly difficult schedule in terms of passing defenses. Over 900 yards and 7 tds on just 49 receptions once he finally got healthy after week 8... Feed the man the ball and he will produce

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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby thejudgehowell » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:31 pm

You got good value back for him for sure. Could go either way on this trade though.
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Re: Sammy Trade

Postby Parker8 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 5:41 pm

I am not a big Parker fan derived from his QB and inflated potential based on a spotty 1st yr. I think everyone is over valuing his performance.

Watkins is in the same boat as far as QB caliber/concerns. I like Taylor but he plays a style of football that pushes me to believe that he will miss a few games from injury every year. He is also just a 2nd year starter and even that is not set in stone.

Therefore I really like the trade. You brought back a nice chunk of value!
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