Julio , MT Trade

[AresGodOWar]

Yes, but I'm very low on Parker and not too high on Collins, so I don't see them as being anything more than throw-ins.

This is where I’m at.

It’s equal in my eyes. Julio should give you a little more upside but MT will hold his value and allow for some flexibility with trades.

I don't consider them throw ins though so maybe I hold onto them and what do you think about Julio and M.Williams for M.Thomas ?

[Mrowmix]

Gotta respect the “should I offer this?” question and immediately argue every point made telling you it’s probably not enough. Unless the MT owner is a contender with depth/youth issues at RB and WR (highly unlikely if they’re contending) this is getting rejected.

An early first valuation on Parker is absolutely ludicrous. So are your projections for both. If you can swindle the Thomas owner into this trade then great. You nailed it. Expect to be shot down.

Dude, his name is AresGodofWar.. Of course he's going to contest everything people say!

The trade might work if your trade partner values those players. I personally don't value them other than upside dice rolls at this point. They are players that could easily have their value go into decline after the draft. At the same time, Collins' value could go up if they don't draft a guy. Now is the time to make the offer, though, before they potentially lose value from their teams drafting a new guy.

Also, from my perspective, you have some unrealistic expectations of players lol. CJA is going to be a starter where he lands? I don't know about that. This is a deep RB class coming in. He's probably a timeshare guy for wherever he lands. Also, your projections for Collins and Parker are just about at the absolute maximum ceiling. If that's what your project for them, why trade them now? Wait until they perform like that and then trade them, or keep them.

[pierson242]

If you think Parker and Collins would get those projections why would you even make them???? Id take MT here but I'm also not a fan of Parker, still hasn't shown it. And Collins shares a backfield with 33 other RBs. So really Julio + some depth for MT. Id take MT but if your trade partner also thinks Collins tops 1500 all purpose yards I guess he would accept.

[Pet_Smith]

I'm with Goddard and the others - Parker and Collins don't really do it for me.

I had to go and check the DLF rankings about Parker, and was shocked to see him in the 1.07 range in ADP (behind only Barkley, Guice, Chubb, Michel, Sutton and Penny, but just ahead of Moore, RoJo and Ridley) so Parker is more the 1.07-1.10 range. Collins maybe a late first, but going behind Tarik Cohen at this stage. Either way, too high for me - so I'd rather have the first.

I think the offer is fair though, and I'd rather have MT, so IMHO would be a good trade for you if you can get it to go ahead.

[AresGodOWar]

If you think Parker and Collins would get those projections why would you even make them???? Id take MT here but I'm also not a fan of Parker, still hasn't shown it. And Collins shares a backfield with 33 other RBs. So really Julio + some depth for MT. Id take MT but if your trade partner also thinks Collins tops 1500 all purpose yards I guess he would accept.

I'm not going to offer that much for MT with Brees getting old he probably has about as many elite years as Julio anyway tbh..

Like I said before there is no reason to think Collins can't do it he was a top 10 RB 2nd half of 2017 in the NFL when he became a starter unlike Barkley that never played real competition before the only decent D's he played held him to like 1 ypc lmao and that people with unrealistic expectations are trading guys like OBJ or Hopkins for , Thats what I really find the biggest joke in FF right now lol

You gotta realize every NFL team has 3 or 4 RBs on their roster it doesn't mean they all share the backfield of course it is Collins job to lose , Buck is a JAG and Dixon is a 3rd down back at most.

Everyone has their own opinion couple years ago every single person on here was selling guys like K.Allen for a 2nd things change people breakout or get healthy no reason the same thing can't happen to Parker he has the skills to be a #1 , Guys like Watkins or White were sure fire studs coming out of college but now they are a bum because they been hurt , 4 years ago L.Fitz was all done but went on to put up over 100 catches 3 straight years.. My point is no one can predict the future at the end of the day take advice but you just gotta go with your own gut and not listen to the masses

[AresGodOWar]

I'm with Goddard and the others - Parker and Collins don't really do it for me.

I had to go and check the DLF rankings about Parker, and was shocked to see him in the 1.07 range in ADP (behind only Barkley, Guice, Chubb, Michel, Sutton and Penny, but just ahead of Moore, RoJo and Ridley) so Parker is more the 1.07-1.10 range. Collins maybe a late first, but going behind Tarik Cohen at this stage. Either way, too high for me - so I'd rather have the first.

I think the offer is fair though, and I'd rather have MT, so IMHO would be a good trade for you if you can get it to go ahead.

ESPN Has Parker at 1.02 I think I mean there are a lot of different rankings but must have him early to mid 1st.. idk maybe it's just me but I would rather take a chance on a 23 year old that holds the starting RB job and played really good in the NFL over some random late 1st rookie

[Ravenous]

http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2018/o ... &ARCHIVE=1

14 team SF IDP league with some dlfers, draft complete a few weeks ago. Collins and Parker went right around ~1.12 rookie pick.

Collins - 127
1.12 - 129
Parker - 133

not comprehensive for sure, but a nice datapoint of what ADP could look like in a real draft.

[AresGodOWar]

http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2018/o ... &ARCHIVE=1

14 team SF IDP league with some dlfers, draft complete a few weeks ago. Collins and Parker went right around ~1.12 rookie pick.

Collins - 127
1.12 - 129
Parker - 133

not comprehensive for sure, but a nice datapoint of what ADP could look like in a real draft.

What rookie QBs or rookie D players went ahead of them , cant see the draft its locked

[pierson242]

I'm with Goddard and the others - Parker and Collins don't really do it for me.

I had to go and check the DLF rankings about Parker, and was shocked to see him in the 1.07 range in ADP (behind only Barkley, Guice, Chubb, Michel, Sutton and Penny, but just ahead of Moore, RoJo and Ridley) so Parker is more the 1.07-1.10 range. Collins maybe a late first, but going behind Tarik Cohen at this stage. Either way, too high for me - so I'd rather have the first.

I think the offer is fair though, and I'd rather have MT, so IMHO would be a good trade for you if you can get it to go ahead.

ESPN Has Parker at 1.02 I think I mean there are a lot of different rankings but must have him early to mid 1st.. idk maybe it's just me but I would rather take a chance on a 23 year old that holds the starting RB job and played really good in the NFL over some random late 1st rookie

for redraft probably, not dynasty

[AresGodOWar]

I'm with Goddard and the others - Parker and Collins don't really do it for me.

I had to go and check the DLF rankings about Parker, and was shocked to see him in the 1.07 range in ADP (behind only Barkley, Guice, Chubb, Michel, Sutton and Penny, but just ahead of Moore, RoJo and Ridley) so Parker is more the 1.07-1.10 range. Collins maybe a late first, but going behind Tarik Cohen at this stage. Either way, too high for me - so I'd rather have the first.

I think the offer is fair though, and I'd rather have MT, so IMHO would be a good trade for you if you can get it to go ahead.

ESPN Has Parker at 1.02 I think I mean there are a lot of different rankings but must have him early to mid 1st.. idk maybe it's just me but I would rather take a chance on a 23 year old that holds the starting RB job and played really good in the NFL over some random late 1st rookie

for redraft probably, not dynasty

Sorry 1.03

http://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/st ... nkings-nfl

[JJRules]

Regardless of which site has which player ranked where, if you truly believe those guys approach your projections there's no way you add them to Julio to get MT. Wanting to get younger is one thing, but this is a massive overpay based on your own projections.

[AresGodOWar]

Regardless of which site has which player ranked where, if you truly believe those guys approach your projections there's no way you add them to Julio to get MT. Wanting to get younger is one thing, but this is a massive overpay based on your own projections.

TBH I wanted someone to talk me out of it because I thought it was so much of a overpay but was almost willing to do it because my RB depth , But by you guys talking Parker and Collins down like they were throw ins or something crazy like that it made me defend them and talk myself out of it so at the end of the day it worked out anyway lol

[Ravenous]

http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2018/o ... &ARCHIVE=1

14 team SF IDP league with some dlfers, draft complete a few weeks ago. Collins and Parker went right around ~1.12 rookie pick.

Collins - 127
1.12 - 129
Parker - 133

not comprehensive for sure, but a nice datapoint of what ADP could look like in a real draft.

What rookie QBs or rookie D players went ahead of them , cant see the draft its locked

no 2018 rookies were taken at all during the draft, they weren't available to pick. but picks 1-11 obviously went well before these picks. and i assume at least several of them will be QBs. I doubt any IDPs go in the top 14 of the rookie draft.

[McCloskey22]

Anyone who would pay 1.03 for Parker is not right in the head.

I wouldn't trade MT for those pieces