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Dilemma

Postby jman3134 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:07 pm

So my league is way more bullish on rookie picks than the consensus here. I have two offers on the table and have been trying to weigh them.

Offer 1:

Trade: pick 10 (1st round)
Receive: Devonta Freeman


Offer 2:

Trade: pick 10 (1st round) and pick 15 (2nd round)
Receive: Allen Robinson


My dilemma is that these are two outstanding offers. However, from a roster construction standpoint, I may not have a starting RB with my current roster with the exception of Barkley. So that would normally lead me to Freeman. However, there is some concussion history concern and I feel Arob might be a faster riser considering the possibilities of him signing in San Fran or Green Bay. If I go with my gut and trade for Arob, I run the risk that I have no rb2 next year.

What would you do and why?
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota, Baker Mayfield
Rb: Saquon Barkley, Kerryon Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, Matt Breida, Austin Ekeler, Corey Clement, Chase Edmonds, Trenton Cannon
Wr: Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, AJ Green,
Allen Robinson, Cameron Meredith, Laquon Treadwell, John Brown, Allen Hurns, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Jake Kumerow, Jordan Matthews, Dontrelle Inman
Te: Rob Gronkowski, Kyle Rudolph, OJ Howard, George Kittle
K: Kai'imi Fairbarn
D: New York Jets
Taxi: Brandon Zylstra, Dan Arnold, Chris Warren, Mike Boone, Richie James
2019: Picks 1, 3, 5, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 10

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Re: Dilemma

Postby Bucky15 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:12 pm

Both offers seem like very good bargains to me. Where do you stand in your league? I agree your team would be better off next year with Freeman, but as far as future asset value that definitely would go to the ARob side. What are you trying to get out of it? That is the question you need to answer.
12 Team 20 Roster Spots & 5 IR 1/2 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex

Team 1
Stafford, Mahomes
Guice, RoJo, Hyde, A. Jones, Powell, Gio, C. Thompson, Dixon, Walton
M. Thomas, Cooks, Martavis, M. Goodwin, Godwin, Taywan Taylor
Gronk, Ertz, Burton

2019
1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x

12 Team 20 Roster Spots & 5 IR 1/2 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex

Team 2
Luck, Dalton
Kamara, D. Henry, T. Coleman, Collins, Foreman, Gallman, Clement, Breida
OBJ, M. Thomas, JuJu, A-Rob, Crowder, CoCo, C. Henderson
Ebron, Fleener, Shaheen
2018
1.6, 2.1, 2.6, 3.6, 4.6
2019
1.x. 2.x, 3.x, 4.x

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Re: Dilemma

Postby Skøl » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:15 pm

Either one of these trades is a steal, as you noted. The NFL season is so random, and the offseason is long, you will have plenty of time to solve your RB dilemma, and who knows, it may resolve itself. I would personally take the Arob trade here, as I think that's the bigger steal. Trust your gut!
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First season: 7-7 (Missed playoffs)
Second season: 7-6 (6th Seed, first round exit)
Third season: 6-7 (Missed playoffs)

.5 PPR, 6PT per TD, 20 man roster, 12 Team (6 Playoffs), 4 Divisions, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR), 1D, 1K
QB: Dalton, Tyrod, Mayfield, Rosen
RB: LF, Mixon, Conner, Chubb, Monty, Tavon, Guice (IR)
WR: Diggs, DT, D.J. Moore, Ridley, Ross, Meredith, Taylor,
TE: Kittle, Gesicki
D: Lions
K: Vinatieri


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First season (7-6, lost championship game)

.5 PPR, 6PT per specials teams TD, 25 man roster, 14 Team (8 Playoffs), 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR), 1D, 1K

QB: Rodgers, Stafford, Bradford
RB: Cook, Mixon, L. Murray, Michel, A. Jones, Austin, Rod Smith
WR: MT, Adams, Arob, Ross, Coleman, Rogers, Sutton, Beasley, Hurns
TE: Rudolph, Olsen
D: LAR, DET
K: Elliott, Gano

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Re: Dilemma

Postby Goddard » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:37 am

Piling on that both offers would be huge steals. I think Arob is worth slightly more than Freeman, but you'd also have to pay a little more to get him. For your team, I think Freeman makes a little more sense, but I wouldn't blame you for going either way.

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Re: Dilemma

Postby NFL-ons » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:38 am

Man, I'd b trying real hard to get 1.9

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Re: Dilemma

Postby RB6 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:41 am

Those are both super cheap. I'd take the Freeman deal Or the Arob deal. I don't care just take one of them now.
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10 Team Devy Non-PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1Flex 5Taxi
QB: Wilson, Luck
WR: MT, Thielen, Woods, Godwin, Arob, Parker, Washington, T'Q Smith, MVS, D. Moore
RB: Zeke, Kamara, Barkley, Ekeler, J. Jackson, Wilson Jr., Ja. Williams, Foreman, Richard, Dixon
TE: Gronk, Burton, Herndon
IR: Marvin, Allison, Warren
Taxi: Swift, Deebo, R. Anderson, Morgan, Dillon

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12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Winston, Darnold
WR: Nuk, AB, Hilton, Baldwin, Shepard, MVS, D. Moore, Matthews, Allison, Martavis, Higgins, Hamilton, James, Malone, Tate, Powell
RB: Zeke, DJ, Crowell, Powell, McGuire, Wilson Jr., Dixon
TE: Ebron, Olsen, Shaheen

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Re: Dilemma

Postby FKC » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:44 am

Goddard wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:37 am
Piling on that both offers would be huge steals. I think Arob is worth slightly more than Freeman, but you'd also have to pay a little more to get him. For your team, I think Freeman makes a little more sense, but I wouldn't blame you for going either way.
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10 team league(0.5 ppr) - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (WR/RB/TE)

QB: D Brees, J Goff, J Garoppolo, J Allen(TS)
RB: D Cook, S Barkley, J Mixon, D Guice(TS), N Chubb, D Foreman(IR), A Ekeler, Warren(IR), TJ Yeldon, A Blue
WR: M Thomas(Saints), A Brown, A Robinson, A Jeffery, S Diggs, A Cooper, K Benjamin, M Williams(LAC), C Sutton, D Moncrief
TE: Z Ertz, T Eifert, G Kittle
K: J Tucker
Def: RAVENS
2019 picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4
2020 picks: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Dilemma

Postby jman3134 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:56 am

I still have questions about the Bears as a landing spot, but I rolled the dice and went with the Arob trade. Thought about it and if my leaguemates are smart (each rookie draft they seem to be getting better), all of the top tier rbs would be off the board by 10. Most of them are experiencing serious rookie fever and won't part with their picks, probably hoping to get another Hunt.

Barkley, Guice, Chubb, Sutton, Michel, Rojo, Penny I imagine will be the starting order. A lot can change with landing spots, but I suspect Kerryon Johnson will slip through the cracks and I think I wouldn't have to reach at 10. Other guy on my radar is Chase Edmonds who I think I can get with a later pick as well.
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota, Baker Mayfield
Rb: Saquon Barkley, Kerryon Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, Matt Breida, Austin Ekeler, Corey Clement, Chase Edmonds, Trenton Cannon
Wr: Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, AJ Green,
Allen Robinson, Cameron Meredith, Laquon Treadwell, John Brown, Allen Hurns, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Jake Kumerow, Jordan Matthews, Dontrelle Inman
Te: Rob Gronkowski, Kyle Rudolph, OJ Howard, George Kittle
K: Kai'imi Fairbarn
D: New York Jets
Taxi: Brandon Zylstra, Dan Arnold, Chris Warren, Mike Boone, Richie James
2019: Picks 1, 3, 5, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 10

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Re: Dilemma

Postby jman3134 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:59 am

NFL-ons wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:38 am
Man, I'd b trying real hard to get 1.9
So you could use it to flip? I have been trying to secure late firsts, but most of the owners won't budge simply because it is a first. They way overrated late 1sts and underrated early 2nds.
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota, Baker Mayfield
Rb: Saquon Barkley, Kerryon Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, Matt Breida, Austin Ekeler, Corey Clement, Chase Edmonds, Trenton Cannon
Wr: Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, AJ Green,
Allen Robinson, Cameron Meredith, Laquon Treadwell, John Brown, Allen Hurns, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Jake Kumerow, Jordan Matthews, Dontrelle Inman
Te: Rob Gronkowski, Kyle Rudolph, OJ Howard, George Kittle
K: Kai'imi Fairbarn
D: New York Jets
Taxi: Brandon Zylstra, Dan Arnold, Chris Warren, Mike Boone, Richie James
2019: Picks 1, 3, 5, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 10

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Re: Dilemma

Postby Generic Username » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:01 am

ARob is listed in your sig...you already take that deal or a different team?

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Re: Dilemma

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:10 am

jman3134 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:59 am
and underrated early 2nds.
I LUUUUUVVVV getting early 2nds in a 10 team league :biggrin:
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE, (a TE2 can flex for RB3 or WR3), 1D, 1K
11-2 this season, #2 points
6th place back to back years :oops:
QB: Russell Wilson, Dalton
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, James White Tevin Coleman, TJ Yeldon, Lat Murray, Mark Ingram, Rashaad Penny, Theo Riddick, Jay Ajayi (ir)
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju Smith Jarvis Landry, T Boyd, Golden Tate, T Gabriel, T Taylor, C Rodgers, , B Zylstra,
TE: George Kittle, Rudolph, V McDonald,
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans Lutz NO
picks- 2019 2,3,3 2020 1,4

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
10-3 this season, #1 points
2017 champions 8-)
QB: Wilson, Smith
RB: Gurley, Kamara, Yeldon, D Henry, Riddick, Henderson, P Barber, M Brown
WR:Evans, Diggs, Landry, Boyd, Arob, Godwin, Hurns, Wright, Dorsett, Higgins, Westbrook, Rattle, Perriman
TE: Kelce, Hooper, Legget
Taxi- Mayfield, Walton, Lazard, Cedrick Wilson
picks- 2019- 1,1,2,2,2,3,4,5 2020- 1,2,3,5

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Re: Dilemma

Postby skip » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:14 am

I'd find a way to get Freeman too. Loved that price point. His owner is almost giving him away.
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Re: Dilemma

Postby smbkrypt24 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:18 am

Yeah, I liked getting Freeman a little more than AROB deal. But yeah if you have any other draft picks besides pick 15 package them for players.
12 Team PPR Dynasty. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 Kicker, 1 Defense. 20 roster spots.

QB: D. Prescott
RB: E. Elliott, S. Barkley, J. Howard, N. Hines, R. Burkhead
WR: K. Allen, J. Gordon, M. Valdes-Scantling, M. Bryant, M. Gallup, Z. Jones, M. Lee
TE: V. Davis, A. Shaheen, J. Doyle, D. Walker
Kicker: Zuerlein
DEF: Giants, Seahawks

2019: 1 (1.01-1.06), 1 (1.09-1.12), 3 (3.01-3.06)

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Re: Dilemma

Postby jman3134 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:22 am

Generic Username wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:01 am
ARob is listed in your sig...you already take that deal or a different team?
Yes I came here to announce I rolled the dice on the deal. Way too good to pass up landing spot be damned.
I LUUUUUVVVV getting early 2nds in a 10 team league :biggrin:
Hahaha it's a 12 team, but your point still stands. 😉

I'd find a way to get Freeman too. Loved that price point. His owner is almost giving him away.
You're absolutely right. Let's see if I can pawn a crudsandwich into something more. Our draft is in preseason, so I was going to wait and hope Meredith puts out some good tape before then. Or somehow package my seconds for a first and then leave the draft altogether? Maybe Jordan Matthews lands in SF? Super excited for my team next year.


Thanks for help/comments, guys.
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota, Baker Mayfield
Rb: Saquon Barkley, Kerryon Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, Matt Breida, Austin Ekeler, Corey Clement, Chase Edmonds, Trenton Cannon
Wr: Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, AJ Green,
Allen Robinson, Cameron Meredith, Laquon Treadwell, John Brown, Allen Hurns, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Jake Kumerow, Jordan Matthews, Dontrelle Inman
Te: Rob Gronkowski, Kyle Rudolph, OJ Howard, George Kittle
K: Kai'imi Fairbarn
D: New York Jets
Taxi: Brandon Zylstra, Dan Arnold, Chris Warren, Mike Boone, Richie James
2019: Picks 1, 3, 5, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 10

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Re: Dilemma

Postby skip » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:05 pm

jman3134 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:22 am
I'd find a way to get Freeman too. Loved that price point. His owner is almost giving him away.
You're absolutely right. Let's see if I can pawn a crudsandwich into something more. Our draft is in preseason, so I was going to wait and hope Meredith puts out some good tape before then. Or somehow package my seconds for a first and then leave the draft altogether? Maybe Jordan Matthews lands in SF? Super excited for my team next year.
I'd offer Kupp straight up and see what more you may need to add.
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