Dilemma

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Dilemma

Postby jman3134 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:07 pm

So my league is way more bullish on rookie picks than the consensus here. I have two offers on the table and have been trying to weigh them.

Offer 1:

Trade: pick 10 (1st round)
Receive: Devonta Freeman


Offer 2:

Trade: pick 10 (1st round) and pick 15 (2nd round)
Receive: Allen Robinson


My dilemma is that these are two outstanding offers. However, from a roster construction standpoint, I may not have a starting RB with my current roster with the exception of Barkley. So that would normally lead me to Freeman. However, there is some concussion history concern and I feel Arob might be a faster riser considering the possibilities of him signing in San Fran or Green Bay. If I go with my gut and trade for Arob, I run the risk that I have no rb2 next year.

What would you do and why?
12 team, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota
Rb: Isaiah Crowell, Robert Kelley, Chris Carson, Matt Breida, Elijah McGuire, Austin Ekeler, De'Angelo Henderson, Joe Williams
Wr: Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, AJ Green,
Allen Robinson, Cameron Meredith, John Ross, Jordan Matthews, Laquon Treadwell, John Brown, Curtis Samuel, Allen Hurns, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Brandon Zylstra, Krishawn Hogan, Chad Williams, Josh Malone, Noah Brown
Te: Kyle Rudolph, OJ Howard, George Kittle, Ricky Seals-Jones, Rico Gathers

2018: 2 1st round picks (1st and 6th overall), 3 second round picks, 1 third round pick, 1 tenth round pick
2019: Picks 1-10

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Re: Dilemma

Postby Bucky15 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:12 pm

Both offers seem like very good bargains to me. Where do you stand in your league? I agree your team would be better off next year with Freeman, but as far as future asset value that definitely would go to the ARob side. What are you trying to get out of it? That is the question you need to answer.
12 Team 20 Roster Spots & 5 IR 1/2 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex

Team 1
Stafford, Bortles, Mahomes
Hyde, A. Jones, Powell, Gio, C. Thompson, Ivory, Dixon, Sproles
M. Thomas, Cooks, Martavis, M. Goodwin, Godwin, Taywan Taylor
Gronk, Ertz, Burton
2018
1.2, 1.5, 3.5, 4.5
2019
1.x, 2.x, 3.x, 4.x

12 Team 20 Roster Spots & 5 IR 1/2 PPR Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex

Team 2
Luck, Dalton
Kamara, D. Henry, T. Coleman, Collins, Foreman, Gallman, Clement, Breida
OBJ, M. Thomas, JuJu, A-Rob, Crowder, CoCo, C. Henderson
Ebron, Fleener, Shaheen
2018
1.6, 2.1, 2.6, 3.6, 4.6
2019
1.x. 2.x, 3.x, 4.x

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Re: Dilemma

Postby Skøl » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:15 pm

Either one of these trades is a steal, as you noted. The NFL season is so random, and the offseason is long, you will have plenty of time to solve your RB dilemma, and who knows, it may resolve itself. I would personally take the Arob trade here, as I think that's the bigger steal. Trust your gut!
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Diggs on the Wing
First season: 7-7 (Missed playoffs)
Second season: 7-6 (6th Seed, first round exit)
Third season: 6-7 (Missed playoffs)

.5 PPR, 6PT per TD, 20 man roster, 12 Team (6 Playoffs), 4 Divisions, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR), 1D, 1K
QB: Cam, Dak, Tyrod
RB: Guice, Rojo, Foreman, Thompson, Booker, D. Murray
WR: Watkins, Diggs, D.J. Moore, Ridley, Gallup, Golladay, Doctson, C. Coleman, M. Williams
TE: Henry, Ebron
D: Ravens
K:

2019: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1


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Mother of Dragons
First season (7-6, lost championship game)

.5 PPR, 6PT per specials teams TD, 25 man roster, 14 Team (8 Playoffs), 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR), 1D, 1K

QB: Rodgers, Cam
RB: Cook, Kamara, L. Murray
WR: Odell, Cooks, Arob, Fitz
TE: Rudolph, Olsen
D: LAR, BUF
K: Matt Bryant

2018: 1.3

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Re: Dilemma

Postby Goddard » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:37 am

Piling on that both offers would be huge steals. I think Arob is worth slightly more than Freeman, but you'd also have to pay a little more to get him. For your team, I think Freeman makes a little more sense, but I wouldn't blame you for going either way.

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Re: Dilemma

Postby NFL-ons » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:38 am

Man, I'd b trying real hard to get 1.9

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Re: Dilemma

Postby RB6 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:41 am

Those are both super cheap. I'd take the Freeman deal Or the Arob deal. I don't care just take one of them now.
Team 1
12 Team Non-PPR: 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1Flex
QB: Wilson, Dalton
WR: OBJ, Nuk, Keenan, Watkins, Parker, Snead, Maclin, Ty. Williams, Cole
RB: Gurley, Freeman, Crowell, Duke, Burkhead, Darkwa, Breida, Barber, Dixon, Joe Williams
TE: Ebron, ASJ, Witten, Fiedorowicz, Burton

Team 2
10 Team Devy Non-PPR: 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1Flex 5Taxi
QB: Wilson, Luck, Dalton
WR: Arob, Thielen, Davis, Sammy, Marvin, Woods, Parker, Coleman, Meredith, Richardson, Cole, Henderson
RB: Zeke, Kamara, Foreman, Carson, McGuire, Ekeler, Ja. Williams, Davis, Barber, Dixon
TE: Njoku, Everett, Jonnu
Taxi: Barkley, Guice, Washington, ESB, Ballage

Team 3
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Winston, Bortles, Darnold, Allen
WR: Nuk, AB, Baldwin, Shepard, Doctson, Martavis, Allison, Maclin, Treadwell, Braxton, Malone
RB: Zeke, DJ, Ajayi, Crowell, Carson, Powell, McGuire, Dixon, Prosise, Bo, Kelley, Darkwa
TE: Olsen, Eifert, Ebron, Kroft

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Re: Dilemma

Postby FKC » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:44 am

Goddard wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:37 am
Piling on that both offers would be huge steals. I think Arob is worth slightly more than Freeman, but you'd also have to pay a little more to get him. For your team, I think Freeman makes a little more sense, but I wouldn't blame you for going either way.
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10 team league(0.5 ppr) - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (WR/RB/TE)

QB: D Brees, J Goff, J Garoppolo, J Allen(TS)
RB: D Cook, S Barkley, J Mixon, D Guice, N Chubb, D Foreman, T Rawls, A Ekeler, D Henderson, J Samuels, R Turbin
WR: M Thomas(Saints), A Robinson, A Jeffery, S Diggs, A Cooper, K Benjamin, D Parker, M Williams(LAC), C Sutton(TS), J Reynolds, B Berrios, D Cain, T Taylor, K Bourne, A Tate
TE: Z Ertz, T Eifert, G Kittle
K: J Tucker
Def: Chargers, Broncos, Panthers

2019 picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
2019 picks: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Dilemma

Postby jman3134 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:56 am

I still have questions about the Bears as a landing spot, but I rolled the dice and went with the Arob trade. Thought about it and if my leaguemates are smart (each rookie draft they seem to be getting better), all of the top tier rbs would be off the board by 10. Most of them are experiencing serious rookie fever and won't part with their picks, probably hoping to get another Hunt.

Barkley, Guice, Chubb, Sutton, Michel, Rojo, Penny I imagine will be the starting order. A lot can change with landing spots, but I suspect Kerryon Johnson will slip through the cracks and I think I wouldn't have to reach at 10. Other guy on my radar is Chase Edmonds who I think I can get with a later pick as well.
12 team, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota
Rb: Isaiah Crowell, Robert Kelley, Chris Carson, Matt Breida, Elijah McGuire, Austin Ekeler, De'Angelo Henderson, Joe Williams
Wr: Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, AJ Green,
Allen Robinson, Cameron Meredith, John Ross, Jordan Matthews, Laquon Treadwell, John Brown, Curtis Samuel, Allen Hurns, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Brandon Zylstra, Krishawn Hogan, Chad Williams, Josh Malone, Noah Brown
Te: Kyle Rudolph, OJ Howard, George Kittle, Ricky Seals-Jones, Rico Gathers

2018: 2 1st round picks (1st and 6th overall), 3 second round picks, 1 third round pick, 1 tenth round pick
2019: Picks 1-10

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Re: Dilemma

Postby jman3134 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:59 am

NFL-ons wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:38 am
Man, I'd b trying real hard to get 1.9
So you could use it to flip? I have been trying to secure late firsts, but most of the owners won't budge simply because it is a first. They way overrated late 1sts and underrated early 2nds.
12 team, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota
Rb: Isaiah Crowell, Robert Kelley, Chris Carson, Matt Breida, Elijah McGuire, Austin Ekeler, De'Angelo Henderson, Joe Williams
Wr: Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, AJ Green,
Allen Robinson, Cameron Meredith, John Ross, Jordan Matthews, Laquon Treadwell, John Brown, Curtis Samuel, Allen Hurns, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Brandon Zylstra, Krishawn Hogan, Chad Williams, Josh Malone, Noah Brown
Te: Kyle Rudolph, OJ Howard, George Kittle, Ricky Seals-Jones, Rico Gathers

2018: 2 1st round picks (1st and 6th overall), 3 second round picks, 1 third round pick, 1 tenth round pick
2019: Picks 1-10

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Re: Dilemma

Postby Generic Username » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:01 am

ARob is listed in your sig...you already take that deal or a different team?

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Re: Dilemma

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:10 am

jman3134 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:59 am
and underrated early 2nds.
I LUUUUUVVVV getting early 2nds in a 10 team league :biggrin:
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE, (TE can flex for RB3 and WR3), 1D, 1K
6th place back to back years :oops:
QB: Russell Wilson, Dalton, Brisset
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, Mark Ingram, Jay Ajayi, James White, Lat Murray, Theo Riddick, TJ Yeldon, JD McKissic, W Gallman,
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Jarvis Landry, JuJu Smith, Golden Tate, T Gabriel, T Taylor, D Amendola, C Rodgers,
TE: Kyle Rudolph , V McDonald, Gates
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans / Houshka BUF, Lutz NO
Taxi- Hunter Henry, T Boyd, P Lynch,
picks- 2019 2,4 2020 1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
2017 champions 8-)
QB: Wison, Smith
RB: Gurley, Kamara, Henry, Riddick, Brieda, Yeldon, Henderson, P Barber, T Austin, M Brown
WR:Evans, Arob, Diggs, Landry, Hurns, Wright, Godwin, Higgins, Westbrook, Boyd, Perriman, Floyd,
TE: Kelce, Hooper, Doyle Legget, Fells
picks- 2018 2.4, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12 2019- 1(early),1,2,3,4,5

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Re: Dilemma

Postby skip » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:14 am

I'd find a way to get Freeman too. Loved that price point. His owner is almost giving him away.
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Re: Dilemma

Postby smbkrypt24 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:18 am

Yeah, I liked getting Freeman a little more than AROB deal. But yeah if you have any other draft picks besides pick 15 package them for players.
12 Team PPR Dynasty. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 Kicker, 1 Defense. 20 roster spots.

QB: D. Prescott, B. Bortles
RB: E. Elliott, J. Howard, J. Hill, S. Ware, D. Henderson, D. Woodhead
WR: K. Allen, J. Gordon, M. Bryant, M. Mitchell, L. Treadwell, T. Taylor, K. Bourne
TE: J. Doyle, T. Eifert, R. Seals-Jones
Kicker: Prater
DEF: Chargers

2018: 1.01
2019: 1, 1, 3

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Re: Dilemma

Postby jman3134 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:22 am

Generic Username wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:01 am
ARob is listed in your sig...you already take that deal or a different team?
Yes I came here to announce I rolled the dice on the deal. Way too good to pass up landing spot be damned.
I LUUUUUVVVV getting early 2nds in a 10 team league :biggrin:
Hahaha it's a 12 team, but your point still stands. 😉

I'd find a way to get Freeman too. Loved that price point. His owner is almost giving him away.
You're absolutely right. Let's see if I can pawn a crudsandwich into something more. Our draft is in preseason, so I was going to wait and hope Meredith puts out some good tape before then. Or somehow package my seconds for a first and then leave the draft altogether? Maybe Jordan Matthews lands in SF? Super excited for my team next year.


Thanks for help/comments, guys.
12 team, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota
Rb: Isaiah Crowell, Robert Kelley, Chris Carson, Matt Breida, Elijah McGuire, Austin Ekeler, De'Angelo Henderson, Joe Williams
Wr: Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, AJ Green,
Allen Robinson, Cameron Meredith, John Ross, Jordan Matthews, Laquon Treadwell, John Brown, Curtis Samuel, Allen Hurns, Taywan Taylor, Keelan Cole, Brandon Zylstra, Krishawn Hogan, Chad Williams, Josh Malone, Noah Brown
Te: Kyle Rudolph, OJ Howard, George Kittle, Ricky Seals-Jones, Rico Gathers

2018: 2 1st round picks (1st and 6th overall), 3 second round picks, 1 third round pick, 1 tenth round pick
2019: Picks 1-10

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Re: Dilemma

Postby skip » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:05 pm

jman3134 wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:22 am
I'd find a way to get Freeman too. Loved that price point. His owner is almost giving him away.
You're absolutely right. Let's see if I can pawn a crudsandwich into something more. Our draft is in preseason, so I was going to wait and hope Meredith puts out some good tape before then. Or somehow package my seconds for a first and then leave the draft altogether? Maybe Jordan Matthews lands in SF? Super excited for my team next year.
I'd offer Kupp straight up and see what more you may need to add.
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