Corey Davis inefficiency?? Have you watched him play? The games he has been fully healthy he has made some very impressive catches. He look3d outstanding in the playoff game. Nagging lityle injuries have been his downfall and the play of his qb. Hopefully both of those improve for next season and I think you'll see the real Corey Davis. That said I would still try to get a 2nd or late 1st added like I stated earlier
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Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
I prefer Davis even though he's more of a gamble.
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Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
except Melvin Gordon's inefficiency has lasted for 3 seasons, while Davis has 1 inefficient season.
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Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
it's tough cuz the Davis owner has no second and likely won't give his first.darewood11 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:54 amCorey Davis inefficiency?? Have you watched him play? The games he has been fully healthy he has made some very impressive catches. He look3d outstanding in the playoff game. Nagging lityle injuries have been his downfall and the play of his qb. Hopefully both of those improve for next season and I think you'll see the real Corey Davis. That said I would still try to get a 2nd or late 1st added like I stated earlier
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Qb: Cousins, Prescott, Lamar Jackson
Rb: Marlon Mack, Tevin Coleman, Rex Burkhead,, Mcguire, Edwards
Wr: Antonio Brown, Amari Cooper, Kenny Golladay, Will Fuller, Tre'quan Smith, John Brown, Carlos Henderson, Josh Malone, Ryan Switzer, Taywan Taylor, Leonte Carroo, Antonio Callaway
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Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
What is your 1st and what is his...maybe swap 1sts if his is a few spots higher
Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
I voted for Davis before I really took a look at your team. If you get rid of Gordon all you really have left at RB would be Henry and he isn't going to get the receptions that Gordon can get for you. Unless you have a top 2 first round pick to go and get another RB I would keep Gordon.
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Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
I agree that some of it is one the line, as they've ranked in the bottom 1/3 of adj. line yards in each of his 3 years there; talented RB's in similar situations have overcome that, though. It's still an indictment of Gordon that he's started his career with 3 straight sub-4.0 ypc seasons. I'm not sure if there's many other RB's in league history (without looking) that had sustained success with starts like that.Seventy5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:29 am I think Gordon's 'inefficiency' has more to do with the o-line than him most of the time, so in that regard Gordon usually gets knocked by the stat-box scouters a little too harshly.
As an owner of both it would be Gordon very easily for me right now but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Davis' value shot up over the next 12 months. He (and the other two rookie WRs) were very out of sight out of mind this year, and that is making all of them good buy-lows this off-season.
He's good in their pass game, but I think once his rookie contract is up, they'll move on and find a cheaper option. I also don't think you'll be able to buy Davis with just Gordon this time next year.
Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
I’m not sure Gordon moving on to another team hurts his value. May not get the volume but almost certainly will get an OL upgrade.Ghosted wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:38 amI agree that some of it is one the line, as they've ranked in the bottom 1/3 of adj. line yards in each of his 3 years there; talented RB's in similar situations have overcome that, though. It's still an indictment of Gordon that he's started his career with 3 straight sub-4.0 ypc seasons. I'm not sure if there's many other RB's in league history (without looking) that had sustained success with starts like that.Seventy5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:29 am I think Gordon's 'inefficiency' has more to do with the o-line than him most of the time, so in that regard Gordon usually gets knocked by the stat-box scouters a little too harshly.
As an owner of both it would be Gordon very easily for me right now but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Davis' value shot up over the next 12 months. He (and the other two rookie WRs) were very out of sight out of mind this year, and that is making all of them good buy-lows this off-season.
He's good in their pass game, but I think once his rookie contract is up, they'll move on and find a cheaper option. I also don't think you'll be able to buy Davis with just Gordon this time next year.
Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
But are we sure that he's talented enough to maintain his value if he loses substantial volume? I don't.HughHoney wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:48 amI’m not sure Gordon moving on to another team hurts his value. May not get the volume but almost certainly will get an OL upgrade.Ghosted wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:38 amI agree that some of it is one the line, as they've ranked in the bottom 1/3 of adj. line yards in each of his 3 years there; talented RB's in similar situations have overcome that, though. It's still an indictment of Gordon that he's started his career with 3 straight sub-4.0 ypc seasons. I'm not sure if there's many other RB's in league history (without looking) that had sustained success with starts like that.Seventy5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:29 am I think Gordon's 'inefficiency' has more to do with the o-line than him most of the time, so in that regard Gordon usually gets knocked by the stat-box scouters a little too harshly.
As an owner of both it would be Gordon very easily for me right now but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Davis' value shot up over the next 12 months. He (and the other two rookie WRs) were very out of sight out of mind this year, and that is making all of them good buy-lows this off-season.
He's good in their pass game, but I think once his rookie contract is up, they'll move on and find a cheaper option. I also don't think you'll be able to buy Davis with just Gordon this time next year.
Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
Gordon for me, and I like Davis.
Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
With your RB core, you need Gordon more than Davis. With his production the last two years, regardless of his efficiency, Gordon should fetch more than a WR who looks like he may break out. Davis is still all potential right now.
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Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
I would take Davis here, and I'd be selling Gordon if I owned him anywhere. Gordon had a great season, but a lot changed when LAC started using Austin Ekeler more on passing down plays. Starting with the JAX game, Gordon averaged 13 PPR fantasy PPG for the five games where Ekeler was healthy and seeing more usage in the passing game. The last three games of the season after Ekeler was hurt early in the game @ KC, Gordon averaged 23 PPR fantasy PPG as the workhorse. I'd be very worried about Gordon's usage with a healthy Ekeler splitting touches in 2018. He still has RB1 potential, but I think Gordon's ceiling will be lower than it was this past season.
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Re: Melvin Gordon or Corey Davis
I prefer and voted for Davis. But I think Gordon has more value right now, so I would look for something on top. Early 2nd, or a swap of 1sts to get an earlier pick.
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