Guy inquiring about Bell

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Bell or pieces?

Bell
4
14%
Howard, 2018 1, 2019 1, Martavis, Parker
25
86%
 
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Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby jeaton6 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:24 pm

Team 2 in sig. He's asking what it would take.. I told him an overpay as it's going to have to be a couple 50 cent pieces and several quarters to move him. Here is my ask. Which side do you prefer?

Give: Bell
Get: Howard, Parker, Martavis, 2018 1 (mid/late), 2019 1

I think it's good value but it doesn't likely put me in a position to increase my odds of winning. Thoughts?
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby thomasscheeks » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:34 pm

It's not terrible but not worth it imo. Too much risk
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby The.Big.Spank » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:39 pm

I think the risk is about even. Bell has a suspension and injury history. I am uncertain he will be signed long term by the Steelers. $10+ mill a year with his history is a bit rich. Plus DeAnglo Williams put up similar numbers while he was gone, so some of his credit does go to the offensive line and the passing game. I like the anti-Bell side better.
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby Goddard » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:54 pm

I might take that. Seems about right value for Bell.

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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby Chris_R » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:36 pm

Umm yea I love Bell but he'd be gone if I got that in my inbox. Howard is pretty equal for the same upside RB in return, and I like the added players. Guess it depends om how you like the other players. Granted I don't like MB with his situation but he's a guy who could finish as a top 5 WR and you could sell off for something good in a year. Parker is gonna be a top 15 WR, and two 1st is nice. Let's keep in mind Bell has injury and suspensions concerns himself.

I see what you mean about not helping your team but I don't know the other roster and you have very few holes unless he could give you a QB. But in a vacuum, as a Bell owner and huge fan, I'd take that deal.

Bell has been suspended twice now. Keep that in mind with this deal.
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby dynasty11 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:14 pm

I hope u did not offer this.. Parker really. No 1sts this year.. I wish I had Parker man the deals I could swing with that guy. You should be getting a solid stud and 1st or 1sts for bell
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby A-train » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:52 pm

Assuming it's Jordan Howard I'd take that side. 2 firsts plus Howard and Parker is a decent haul.
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby skip » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:13 pm

If this is Jordan Howard, I would take that side. If it is OJ Howard, I would not. I'm a huge fan of Bell but Howard is a top 5 RB so this is a considerable amount to get with him. Then I would trade away Bryant.
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby Minnkota » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:38 pm

skip wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:13 pm If this is Jordan Howard, I would take that side. If it is OJ Howard, I would not. I'm a huge fan of Bell but Howard is a top 5 RB so this is a considerable amount to get with him. Then I would trade away Bryant.
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby Mrowmix » Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:58 am

I'm not particularly high on Howard. I see regression coming and he doesn't have enough of a track record. Remember when Jeremy Hill looked all conquering like Howard did?

Parker and Martavis are fine value. Like both. Those 1sts are nice but one is far away and I presume this team finishes well if they get Bell. I voted Bell in the end. But it's great value for him.

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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby IR1 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:22 am

Minnkota wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:38 pm
skip wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:13 pm If this is Jordan Howard, I would take that side. If it is OJ Howard, I would not. I'm a huge fan of Bell but Howard is a top 5 RB so this is a considerable amount to get with him. Then I would trade away Bryant.
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby 24FlavorsofFun » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:02 am

Martavis and Parker are still ???'s but trending in the right direction.

I like Howard a good bit (though on an awful team(. With the RB depth you have I think its a risk you can take and still easillly compete for ship this year.

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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby jeffster » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:09 am

skip wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:13 pm If this is Jordan Howard, I would take that side. If it is OJ Howard, I would not. I'm a huge fan of Bell but Howard is a top 5 RB so this is a considerable amount to get with him. Then I would trade away Bryant.
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Re: Guy inquiring about Bell

Postby Maximus891 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:11 am

Goddard wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:54 pm I might take that. Seems about right value for Bell.
Agree, Id take the deal if it was me.
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