With the Chargers drafting Mike Williams that is 1) a boatload of targets for the Chargers and 2) possibly a sign the Chargers' trainers have 0 confidence of Keenan Allen staying healthy or perhaps after his last injury his recovery doesn't seem to be returning him to his prior form
Is now a time to try and trade Keenan Allen before his stock drops any more? Has Allen's stock dropped past the point and now it's better to keep him and hope for the best?
Move Keenan Allen?
Move Keenan Allen?
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
I knew this would happen as soon as they selected him. Sell him for whatever you can...offer him up to your entire league and take the first offer to get a 2nd in 2019 for him!!
Relax, haha! Keenan will be fine...he will probably lose some targets but his game is the literal complete opposite of Williams. If they move Keenan to the slot he will still clean up and Rivers loves him.
Relax, haha! Keenan will be fine...he will probably lose some targets but his game is the literal complete opposite of Williams. If they move Keenan to the slot he will still clean up and Rivers loves him.
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
I'm starting to think he is in the same boat as JMatt now if he moves to the slot
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
I agree with this! He is opposite of Williams and having Williams outside and Allen inside could possibly open the door for Allen and help him! Allen and Williams compliment eachother, and with teams still having to worry about Gordon and Henry, Allen will be just fine!flyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:34 am I knew this would happen as soon as they selected him. Sell him for whatever you can...offer him up to your entire league and take the first offer to get a 2nd in 2019 for him!!
Relax, haha! Keenan will be fine...he will probably lose some targets but his game is the literal complete opposite of Williams. If they move Keenan to the slot he will still clean up and Rivers loves him.
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
Only Keenan catches everything and JMatt drops the easy ones...AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:37 am I'm starting to think he is in the same boat as JMatt now if he moves to the slot
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
I think we wait and see. If anything they can help each other, assuming Keenan is healthy. That offense throws enough to support two WRs as well. If anything it could hurt Ty Williams in my opinion
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
Why because JMatt will drop maybe 5 more passes all year its going to make a difference ?flyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:41 amOnly Keenan catches everything and JMatt drops the easy ones...AresGodOWar wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:37 am I'm starting to think he is in the same boat as JMatt now if he moves to the slot
JMatt has Jeffery , Smith , DGB , Ertz , Sproles
Allen has M.Williams , T.William , Inman , Henry , Gates , Gordon
Philly threw the ball 29 times more and I think Allen's competition for targets is just as good if not better and they both play the slot
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
Worst time to sell.
Best time to buy.
Different type of WRs. I'd be selling Hunter Henry right now. Going to lose red zone opportunities.
Best time to buy.
Different type of WRs. I'd be selling Hunter Henry right now. Going to lose red zone opportunities.
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
X2 Keenan isn't seeing 140 targets, but he'll still catch 80-90 balls. Rivers has thrown it 500+ times in 3 straight years. I'd sell Gordon, Henry, and Tyrell if I owned them anywhere, but Allen is going to thrive with someone taking deep safeties off him. Buy.onetwothree wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:10 am Worst time to sell.
Best time to buy.
Different type of WRs. I'd be selling Hunter Henry right now. Going to lose red zone opportunities.
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
I'm gonna be trying to buy from each owner and hoping they panic, too. I don't think M Williams was ever a true #1 talent and see him more as a compliment to K Allen than competition...it hurts Tyrell the most, IMO
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
I wish I could buy Keenan from a panicking owner...only I own him almost everywhere.
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
Thanks for the insight and opinions
The place I'm sitting Draft order, I could end up drafting Mike Williams. Not sure how I feel having both Allen and Williams.
The place I'm sitting Draft order, I could end up drafting Mike Williams. Not sure how I feel having both Allen and Williams.
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WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
Re: Move Keenan Allen?
Overreaction has begun! Why would you even want to sell now if you believe his stock has dropped so much? What makes you think it will drop even more? Once news comes out that he's on track or ahead of schedule in his rehab, his stock will go right back up. Not sure why everyone is assuming his health is in question just because they drafted another WR.
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
If he's best player available take him, you can always trade one later
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Re: Move Keenan Allen?
You don't think it's fair to assume the Chargers are at least a bit worried about Keenan's health after this pick? Team's don't generally spend a top 10 pick on a WR if they're confident in their WR corps, and Tyrell certainly didn't look like a weak spot this year.Goddard wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:07 am Overreaction has begun! Why would you even want to sell now if you believe his stock has dropped so much? What makes you think it will drop even more? Once news comes out that he's on track or ahead of schedule in his rehab, his stock will go right back up. Not sure why everyone is assuming his health is in question just because they drafted another WR.
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