It's actually less valuable than 1.12, since 1.12 is guaranteed to give you a return (i.e., the player that you draft), but Kirk might give you nothing if you cut him.
But, your point being that a third-round pick is more akin in value to a late-first rookie pick than a third is well noted.
I'd make the trade. Kirk is, as you noted, a bubble keeper and unlikely a difference-maker.
Help with a Trade Offer
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10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Re: Help with a Trade Offer
I'd take the third, to me you have 5 locked in keepers, lindsay, LF, Adams, TY, and Ertz. So that places him as one of about five guys to keep in that last spot with cole, davis, ito,kirk, etc. so your not just getting the third rounder for him, your getting the third rounder AND one of those guys
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I mean he was included in the etc, I just got tired of writing all the names out lol. I've been trying to buy him everywhere lolVISUAL DESPERADO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:48 pmNo love for Courtland Sutton? Lol Think I'll do the deal. Thanks.Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:37 am I'd take the third, to me you have 5 locked in keepers, lindsay, LF, Adams, TY, and Ertz. So that places him as one of about five guys to keep in that last spot with cole, davis, ito,kirk, etc. so your not just getting the third rounder for him, your getting the third rounder AND one of those guys
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You had written that a third-round pick in this league is like the 1.12 in a regular rookie draft. My response was to that comparison, not the value of 1.12 in a dynasty league to Kirk.VISUAL DESPERADO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:25 amI'm just a bit confused about what you meant by "It's actually less valuable than 1.12."moishetreats wrote: ↑Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:11 am It's actually less valuable than 1.12, since 1.12 is guaranteed to give you a return (i.e., the player that you draft), but Kirk might give you nothing if you cut him.
But, your point being that a third-round pick is more akin in value to a late-first rookie pick than a third is well noted.
I'd make the trade. Kirk is, as you noted, a bubble keeper and unlikely a difference-maker.
Do you mean holding onto Kirk is less valuable than the 1.12?
Side note: these are the types of intricacies that make this type of league difficult to navigate. It's not a redraft, but not a dynasty either. So valuing players vs. picks is really difficult. Any advice?
As for advice, I think that you're looking at things the right way. Non-elite rookies in this format get incredibly devalued -- not worth hanging onto them just in case they eventually break out when you can have players who have broken out in their stead each year.
Put another way: think of this as a seven-round draft going into each year. Would you rather have 4 picks in the top 2 round and 3 in the seventh or would you rather have one in each round? Then construct/trade for your team accordingly. Final piece of advice: I wouldn't stress too much about that sixth or seventh keeper. Odds are that a couple of teams will have too many keeper-worthy players, and you can acquire one for relatively cheap in the off-season. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that you could get a keeper-worthy player in the off-season that is far more valuable than Kirk .
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
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