1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
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1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
Got offered for the 1.01 today
MT
2019 1st which is likely to be top 5
and also would turn my 1.05 into 1.04
Very tempting as its quite a haul, But letting go of Barkley is so tough
It sounds like Guice is going to make it to 1.04 so I would probably take him. Am I crazy not to take this and run?
16 team league PPR
MT
2019 1st which is likely to be top 5
and also would turn my 1.05 into 1.04
Very tempting as its quite a haul, But letting go of Barkley is so tough
It sounds like Guice is going to make it to 1.04 so I would probably take him. Am I crazy not to take this and run?
16 team league PPR
Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
I’d have MT=1.1 so that side pretyy easy
Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
I'd say goodbye to Barkley if the offer was just Thomas.
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Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
Barkley, as "generational" as he's touted, isn't proven yet. He could be just good instead of great. He could continue to have trouble with his inside running and be forced to follow a Reggie Bush type of career path. Don't fall for the hype when you have a proven commodity in Thomas.
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Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
For as proven as Thomas is, there are still serious questions about what he is without Brees.
I would actually be less surprised if Thomas is not a fantasy WR1 three years from now than I would be if Barkley isn't a RB1.
I would actually be less surprised if Thomas is not a fantasy WR1 three years from now than I would be if Barkley isn't a RB1.
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Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
That's basically where I'm at. They seem to be becoming more of a run first team and Giants offense has potential to be insane plus they added hernandez
Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
I definitely shared your concerns about MT last year, and I still do to an extent, but even with Brees logging his fewest pass attempts since 2009 and finishing as a back-end QB1 last year, Thomas still posted a WR1 season.
I prefer Saquon to Thomas straight up, but I think the other pieces more than make up the difference. Assuming the 2019 1st is from the team that the OP is trading with, I don’t see Barkley outscoring Thomas to such a degree that it significantly alters that pick’s position. I also have a tier break after 1.04, so the pick upgrade this year is significant as well.
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Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
Thomas side easily.
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Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
Ive been told pick 2 is going to be Penny, and 3 likely to be RojoM-Dub wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 10:53 amI definitely shared your concerns about MT last year, and I still do to an extent, but even with Brees logging his fewest pass attempts since 2009 and finishing as a back-end QB1 last year, Thomas still posted a WR1 season.
I prefer Saquon to Thomas straight up, but I think the other pieces more than make up the difference. Assuming the 2019 1st is from the team that the OP is trading with, I don’t see Barkley outscoring Thomas to such a degree that it significantly alters that pick’s position. I also have a tier break after 1.04, so the pick upgrade this year is significant as well.
So that 4 pick would be guice, sony or chubb. Im having a tough time deciding which one so I would still be happy at 5 in all likelihood
We have a 6 keeper rule. So the 2019 1st team would look something like
Mariota
Landry
Barkley
Hyde
Ajayi
Cohen
Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
6 keeper? Barkley.
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Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
While I think Barkley will be a very good to great NFL running back he has not done anything yet, so I have to go with the proven talent and extra picks. Also I think the Barkley love is WAY WAY out of control. Todd McShay did an article about where Barkley fell vs RB from the past 10 years no surprise A Peterson was number 1, but tied for 2nd were Barkley and T Rich. So lets not sit here and say that Barkley will automatically be a Pro Bowler or HoF player when T Rich was out of the league in 3 years. No prospect is a sure thing no matter the rating for the draft.
Here is the link to the article.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story ... ning-backs
Here is the link to the article.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story ... ning-backs
Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
As hard as it is to trade Barkley, Thomas and the first is a good return. The 6 keeper rule does make it closer though.
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Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
I guess I should mention....I didnt want to get too detailed and make you guys read a ton....but we have rookie tag rules for keepers.
Basically any non-tagged player's keeper cost is their total points the prior year divided by 10. 300 points = $30 to keep. $105 cap for 6 keepers
If you tag a rookie, they cost $5 year 1, $10 year 2, and $15 year 3. So as you can see...having barkley locked in at a fixed rate for 3 years is extremely valuable when zeke, gurley, and bell owners are paying $28-$40 for them
Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
Don't overthink this and take that package.
Re: 1.01 or Michael Thomas, 2019 Top 5 pick (likely), and upgrade pick 5 to 4?
All of that info changes the story though and is needed to make the correct recommendation. In a standard PPR league I feel it is the Thomas side all day, but in your case with 6 keepers and now Salary cap restrictions that swings it way closer and probably to Barkley.
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