Update: Kamara offer / Would you change anything?

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Update: Kamara offer / Would you change anything?

Postby smoppelpoppel » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:39 pm

Hi all,

first of all, a happy new year to you all and thanks for all the great advice in 2017 - it helped a great deal to make my team better. Reached the playoffs this year in my league, lost in 1st round though, due to the Kamara injury.

Now, I am wondering if I should just stay put during offseason or if I should try to make any moves during offseason. See my team and league settings in sig.

- 7 keeper league, right now: LF, Kamara, Nuk, Jones, Kelce, Watkins, Crowder (maybe Doctson)
- Have picks 1.06 and 1.07 in our rookie/free agent draft, no picks in round 2 and 3
- Goal is to compete next year, was this year's highest scoring team already

Would you stay put with this core? Or which move would you try to do? Was thinking for example to sell high on Kamara.

Any help highly appreciated. Thx.

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7 keeper, 12 team 0,5 PPR league
1 QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, DST

My roster (7 keepers)
QB: Big Ben, Mahomes
WR: Hopkins, Julio Jones, Watkins, Doctson, J. Brown, Lockett, Hurns, Sutton,
RB: Fournette, Kamara, Ajayi, Chubb
TE: Kelce
KI: Butker
DEF: Streaming

Picks 2019: tbd

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Re: Would you change anything?

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:56 pm

Without a pick in rounds 2 and 3 and it being only a 7 keeper league and not dynasty, I think trading back either that 1.6 or 1.7 pick (on the clock if there isn't a surprising player left there) to get multiples and fill out your lineup and 1st subs would be a good call
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QB: Russell Wilson, Dalton
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, Jay Ajayi, Rashaad Penny, Mark Ingram, James White, Lat Murray, Theo Riddick, TJ Yeldon,
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Jarvis Landry, JuJu Smith, Golden Tate, T Gabriel, T Taylor, D Amendola, C Rodgers, T Boyd, B Zylstra
TE: Kyle Rudolph , V McDonald, Kittle, H Henry
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team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
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QB: Wison, Smith
RB: Gurley, Kamara, Henry, Riddick, Yeldon, Henderson, P Barber, T Austin, M Brown
WR:Evans, Arob, Diggs, Landry, Hurns, Wright, Godwin, Higgins, Westbrook, Boyd, Perriman
TE: Kelce, Hooper, Doyle Legget
Taxi- Mayfield, Walton, Lazard, Cedrick Wilson
picks- 2019- 1(early),1,2,2,3,4,5 2020- 1,2,3,5

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Re: Would you change anything?

Postby Rasorin » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:03 pm

In a keeper league I think the value of elite talent is even more at a premium. With that in mind, Kamara is elite and should be held unless you are blown away with an offer. If not for the Kamara injury your odds of winning it all most have been high with that team. Why make changes?

With two picks you have a chance to strike gold again. You could put feelers out of Watkins, Crowder and Doctson for an upgrade, but no need to make a move here. You have the right team to win it all, now you just need luck and unfortunately you can't trade or draft the Lady.
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10 team ppr
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1 DEF
QB: Cam, Cousins
RB: Bell, Kamara, Hyde, Ty Mont, B Powell, Prosise, James Conner, Spencer Ware
WR: Baldwin, Jeffrey, Juju, Robby-A, Jordy, Marquise Lee, Corey Coleman, Snead, Curtis Samuel, J-Reynolds, Carlos Henderson, Kevin White
TE: Delanie, Njoku, Gerald Everett
DEF:

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1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1PK, 1 DEF
QB: Trubisky, Rosen
RB: Penny, Chubb, Burkhead, Ty Mont, J Stewart, M Walton, J Kelly, Gore, A Morris,
WR: DJ Moore, A Miller, Pettis, DJ Chark, Hurns, Pryor, Hollins, Maclin, Britt, Marshall
TE: Delanie, Butt
PK: Succop
DEF: Packers

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Re: Would you change anything?

Postby smoppelpoppel » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:52 pm

Thx, good advice.
7 keeper, 12 team 0,5 PPR league
1 QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, DST

My roster (7 keepers)
QB: Big Ben, Mahomes
WR: Hopkins, Julio Jones, Watkins, Doctson, J. Brown, Lockett, Hurns, Sutton,
RB: Fournette, Kamara, Ajayi, Chubb
TE: Kelce
KI: Butker
DEF: Streaming

Picks 2019: tbd

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UPDATE: Kamara offer / was: Re: Would you change anything?

Postby smoppelpoppel » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:44 am

What do you think of giving Kamara for Joe Mixon/Keenan Allen/2018 1.10?
7 keeper, 12 team 0,5 PPR league
1 QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, DST

My roster (7 keepers)
QB: Big Ben, Mahomes
WR: Hopkins, Julio Jones, Watkins, Doctson, J. Brown, Lockett, Hurns, Sutton,
RB: Fournette, Kamara, Ajayi, Chubb
TE: Kelce
KI: Butker
DEF: Streaming

Picks 2019: tbd

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Re: UPDATE: Kamara offer / was: Re: Would you change anything?

Postby dhanks91 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:48 am

smoppelpoppel wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:44 am
What do you think of giving Kamara for Joe Mixon/Keenan Allen/2018 1.10?
IMO it’s a no brainer on the Mixon side. His talent hasn’t dropped off and I expect Cincy to transition fully to a running offense. Was this trade offered to you? Seems like an awful lot
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QB: Watson l Carr
RB: Cook l Hunt l Coleman l Collins l Richard l Gillislee l Turbin l Blount l Rawls
WR: OBJ l Landry l Thielen l Woods l Kearse l Benjamin l Mathews l Tay. Taylor l Lockett l Wright l Patterson l Smith l B.Miller
TE: Kittle l Kroft l Davis l Burton l Dickson

2018 picks: 0

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12 team SF
Tiered ppr (.5-RB,1-WR, 1.5-TE) .25 YPC

QB: Luck l Wilson l Darnold l McCown l Siemian
RB: Michel l Johnson l CJA l D.Lewis l Martin l Booker l Ekeler l Grant
WR: Allen l Hilton l Thielen l Fitzgerald l M.Williams l Richardson l Snead l Treadwell l Mitchell l Burnett
TE: Hurst l Davis l Walford l Goedert

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Re: Update: Kamara offer / Would you change anything?

Postby smoppelpoppel » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:04 pm

Its in discussion. Kamara for Mixon/Allen, picks tbd, but not the 1.10. Its a 7 keeper league, where I'd basically hope that Mixon turns into Kamara 2.0 and Allen is an upgrade to my current keepers Watkins and Crowder.
7 keeper, 12 team 0,5 PPR league
1 QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K, DST

My roster (7 keepers)
QB: Big Ben, Mahomes
WR: Hopkins, Julio Jones, Watkins, Doctson, J. Brown, Lockett, Hurns, Sutton,
RB: Fournette, Kamara, Ajayi, Chubb
TE: Kelce
KI: Butker
DEF: Streaming

Picks 2019: tbd

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Re: UPDATE: Kamara offer / was: Re: Would you change anything?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:29 pm

smoppelpoppel wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:44 am
What do you think of giving Kamara for Joe Mixon/Keenan Allen/2018 1.10?
Um...Keenan Allen > Alvin Kamara, so if you're getting stuff on top I'd take that ASAP.
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST | Championships: 2015, 2017
QB: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady
RB: Christian McCaffrey, LeSean McCoy, Rex Burkhead, Marshawn Lynch, D'Onta Foreman, Chase Edmonds, Ito Smith, Jerick McKinnon [IR]
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, Cooper Kupp, Emmanuel Sanders
TE: Travis Kelce, George Kittle, Jake Butt, Ian Thomas | K: Stephen Gostkowski | DST: BAL
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Re: UPDATE: Kamara offer / was: Re: Would you change anything?

Postby HughHoney » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:30 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:29 pm
smoppelpoppel wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:44 am
What do you think of giving Kamara for Joe Mixon/Keenan Allen/2018 1.10?
Um...Keenan Allen > Alvin Kamara, so if you're getting stuff on top I'd take that ASAP.
Curious why you feel this way. As a rookie Kamara outscored Allen by quite a bit in Allen’s best season to date. He did it at a position where it’s harder to acquire top talent and while sharing time with another top back. I love Allen so I guess you’re just not very high on Kamara?
12 Team, 24-man Roster, 3-man TS, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 DEF

QB: Wilson, Garoppolo, T Taylor
RB: Da Johnson, Kamara, Gordon, Hines, Gio, Samuels, J White, Wilkins, C Edmonds, Breida,
WR: OBJ, Cooper, Watkins, D Thomas, Funchess, Kupp, A Miller, Snead, Pettis, Coutee, John Brown
TE: Graham, Kittle, ASJ
DEF: KCC

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Re: UPDATE: Kamara offer / was: Re: Would you change anything?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:48 pm

HughHoney wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:30 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:29 pm
smoppelpoppel wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:44 am
What do you think of giving Kamara for Joe Mixon/Keenan Allen/2018 1.10?
Um...Keenan Allen > Alvin Kamara, so if you're getting stuff on top I'd take that ASAP.
Curious why you feel this way. As a rookie Kamara outscored Allen by quite a bit in Allen’s best season to date. He did it at a position where it’s harder to acquire top talent and while sharing time with another top back. I love Allen so I guess you’re just not very high on Kamara?
Kamara's yards after the catch and TD percentage are insane. I think he'll be a very good RB, but definitely due for regression. Kamara's value right now is where Kareem Hunt's was after week 4. I don't think he's a must-sell or anything, but he would be a sell-high guy for me while he's worth 1.01+ to some.
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QB: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady
RB: Christian McCaffrey, LeSean McCoy, Rex Burkhead, Marshawn Lynch, D'Onta Foreman, Chase Edmonds, Ito Smith, Jerick McKinnon [IR]
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Brandin Cooks, Cooper Kupp, Emmanuel Sanders
TE: Travis Kelce, George Kittle, Jake Butt, Ian Thomas | K: Stephen Gostkowski | DST: BAL
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Re: UPDATE: Kamara offer / was: Re: Would you change anything?

Postby HughHoney » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:54 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:48 pm
HughHoney wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:30 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:29 pm

Um...Keenan Allen > Alvin Kamara, so if you're getting stuff on top I'd take that ASAP.
Curious why you feel this way. As a rookie Kamara outscored Allen by quite a bit in Allen’s best season to date. He did it at a position where it’s harder to acquire top talent and while sharing time with another top back. I love Allen so I guess you’re just not very high on Kamara?
Kamara's yards after the catch and TD percentage are insane. I think he'll be a very good RB, but definitely due for regression. Kamara's value right now is where Kareem Hunt's was after week 4. I don't think he's a must-sell or anything, but he would be a sell-high guy for me while he's worth 1.01+ to some.
Got it.
12 Team, 24-man Roster, 3-man TS, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 DEF

QB: Wilson, Garoppolo, T Taylor
RB: Da Johnson, Kamara, Gordon, Hines, Gio, Samuels, J White, Wilkins, C Edmonds, Breida,
WR: OBJ, Cooper, Watkins, D Thomas, Funchess, Kupp, A Miller, Snead, Pettis, Coutee, John Brown
TE: Graham, Kittle, ASJ
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Re: Update: Kamara offer / Would you change anything?

Postby hjernazian » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:41 am

i'd take that deal but i don't agree that K. Allen > Kamara. In a league that is more and more thin at elite RB talent, Kamara is very valuable. Also, just watching the guy play ball is an absolute joy. He is an Odell type talent that you want stock in early. With that said, Allen and Mixon would be enough to get it done for me. Although, I am very weary of Cincy and them bringing back their atrocious coach. Personally, I wouldn't want a piece of that offense and have historically passed on guys like AJG, Eifert, Gio for the same reason, and mostly glad that I have.
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Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, K, DEF - 26 man roster

QB: D. Brees $9, C. Newton $20, P. Mahomes $5, B. Mayfield $2
RB: D. Johnson $54, D. Henry $14, T. Coleman $4, N. Chubb $4, I. Crowell $3, B. Powell $4, J. Allen $6
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, D. Thomas $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, M. Goodwin $9, K. Cole $2, D. Jackson $4, S. Shephard $10, R. Anderson $3
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019 Changes coming: SUPERFLEX, + 2 roster spots, 1 mandatory rookie draft starter, no more K/DEF, HARD cap going from $200 to $220.

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Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, T. Coleman, D. Johnson, S. Ware, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, DJ Moore, T. Pryor, T. Smith
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis
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