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bell vs murray and henry

Postby hord » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:42 am

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if I were to consider moving bell to a huge steeler/bell fan who is in need of a rb..... what should I expect in return on top of murray and henry...
his players of note are
breese
cooks
nuk
keenan
martavius
olsen

was thinking it might be worth the downgrade from bell to murry, if I was able to include Watkins and landry for like nuk and keenan? or cooks?
any thoughts
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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby Goddard » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:45 am

I don't think you should include anything and can ask for Cooks on top of Murray and Henry.

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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby Alge Crumpler » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:52 am

I don't think Leveon can be traded unless you get a top 6 top 7 runningback back.

Murray and Henry? In dynasty? That's horse fodder.

If I'm trading LeVeon bell I need a grade a stud back. I don't really see that on his team.
You have 3 very good ppr wrs. Doug Baldwin top 10 last year, Landry, Diggs...

I just don't understand why you would want to downgrade so severely at runningback
[Trading Bell for the Titans rb's] to get some wr help from someone like Keenan Allen who I love but cant
stay healthy, or NUK, who I again love, but is coming off a poor season.

I don't understand at all. Again If Im trading Bell I want a top 6 7 rb back, plus more , or a top 3-5 wr.

Youre selling Bell way too low, and quite frankly I don't even know why you would do it.
People dream of having those 2rbs.
If your wr's were very poor id understand.
You had Baldwin the #9 wr in PPR last year.
Landry who I am down on a bit this year, a great great ppr wr
Diggs caught 80 balls before, expecting 90..

I just don't get it sorry.

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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby Favrezilla » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:55 am

Don't add anything and ask for Nuk.
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (13th year) ‘21&’22 champ
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Stafford,
RB: Mixon, Henry, zeke, Rochon
WR: Godwin, Olave, Deebo,DJM, Dell, MW, Doubs
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RB: Saquon, Mixon, Rochon, Evans
WR: Pickens, QJ, Thielen, Arob, Juju, ODB, D. Parker, Osborn,
TE: Kincaid, Ertz, Freirmuth, Taysom, JWoods

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RB: JT, Javonte,Sanders, JCook, Jamaal
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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby joeday » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:00 am

Goddard wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:45 am I don't think you should include anything and can ask for Cooks on top of Murray and Henry.
Exactly. He should be adding, not you...especially if he is a huge steelers fan lol
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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby Gunner11 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:13 am

Keep Bell. I dont see him dealing murray, Henry and someone else.
Bell is a stud and your team with him is very good.

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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby Alge Crumpler » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:20 am

Favrezilla wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:55 am Don't add anything and ask for Nuk.

You would seriously trade Leveon Bell for DeAndre Hopkins, 29year old Murray and another Alabama bust RB Derrick Henry?

Is LeVeon Bell 38years old with a fake birth certificate or something I don't know about?

Insane, but that's what makes fantasy so great. The difference of opinions.

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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby hord » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:11 pm

Alge Crumpler wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:52 am I don't think Leveon can be traded unless you get a top 6 top 7 runningback back.

Murray and Henry? In dynasty? That's horse fodder.

If I'm trading LeVeon bell I need a grade a stud back. I don't really see that on his team.
You have 3 very good ppr wrs. Doug Baldwin top 10 last year, Landry, Diggs...

I just don't understand why you would want to downgrade so severely at runningback
[Trading Bell for the Titans rb's] to get some wr help from someone like Keenan Allen who I love but cant
stay healthy, or NUK, who I again love, but is coming off a poor season.

I don't understand at all. Again If Im trading Bell I want a top 6 7 rb back, plus more , or a top 3-5 wr.

Youre selling Bell way too low, and quite frankly I don't even know why you would do it.
People dream of having those 2rbs.
If your wr's were very poor id understand.
You had Baldwin the #9 wr in PPR last year.
Landry who I am down on a bit this year, a great great ppr wr
Diggs caught 80 balls before, expecting 90..

I just don't get it sorry.
I hear ya, and I don't disagree with you... I simply was looking at the options and if there may be a trade that helps me at wr and keeps me strong at rb. I love Baldwin, but after him, digs, hill, Watkins, landry.... looks good on paper but all huge question marks if u ask me... don't feel comfortable with them... landry seems to be on the outs with Miami, plus this assault stuff and cutlers love for parker... I don't think he will be the ppr monster we are used to.... Watkins learning a new play book on top of staying healthy and a shakey QB.... I dunno, just not confident in them
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RB- [/b],Barkley, taylor, Etienne, jacobs, montgomery, hull, latavius, rodriguez jr
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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:14 pm

Keep Bell. Only trade that would be close to the value is Murray, Henry, and Cooks 4 weeks in and Cooks is getting the targets he needs from Brady

Even then, I think I'd side Bell
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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby Alge Crumpler » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:22 pm

hord wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:11 pm
Alge Crumpler wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:52 am I don't think Leveon can be traded unless you get a top 6 top 7 runningback back.

Murray and Henry? In dynasty? That's horse fodder.

If I'm trading LeVeon bell I need a grade a stud back. I don't really see that on his team.
You have 3 very good ppr wrs. Doug Baldwin top 10 last year, Landry, Diggs...

I just don't understand why you would want to downgrade so severely at runningback
[Trading Bell for the Titans rb's] to get some wr help from someone like Keenan Allen who I love but cant
stay healthy, or NUK, who I again love, but is coming off a poor season.

I don't understand at all. Again If Im trading Bell I want a top 6 7 rb back, plus more , or a top 3-5 wr.

Youre selling Bell way too low, and quite frankly I don't even know why you would do it.
People dream of having those 2rbs.
If your wr's were very poor id understand.
You had Baldwin the #9 wr in PPR last year.
Landry who I am down on a bit this year, a great great ppr wr
Diggs caught 80 balls before, expecting 90..

I just don't get it sorry.
I hear ya, and I don't disagree with you... I simply was looking at the options and if there may be a trade that helps me at wr and keeps me strong at rb. I love Baldwin, but after him, digs, hill, Watkins, landry.... looks good on paper but all huge question marks if u ask me... don't feel comfortable with them... landry seems to be on the outs with Miami, plus this assault stuff and cutlers love for parker... I don't think he will be the ppr monster we are used to.... Watkins learning a new play book on top of staying healthy and a shakey QB.... I dunno, just not confident in them
I understand completely. Here's my take on the WR'S. Doug Baldwin great. Russell Wilsons guys. Top 9 PPR WR last year 2016. No complaints here from either of us. Landry. I agree on Cutler to Parker, I also know about the assault, which I don't think anything will come from it. Despite all this I still think Landry is a LOCK for 75 receptions to 90 receptions. With your rb's that is not a bad wr2.
I see you didn't mention Stefon Diggs. He caught 84 receptions last year. I think he will get to 90 to 100 reception mark this season, in his 3rd season. PPR league? Sign me up. Tyreek Hill wr4? Yes please. I'm not a fan of Sammy Watkins, and even less in St Louis, where he's learning from Cooper Kupp when it should be the other way around. But as a wr5? SOLID. My take on it. gluck! :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Considering your rb's, and your wr1, I do not mind your other wr's whatsoever. And certainly wouldn't trade Bell to combat that. MY TAKE.

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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby Alge Crumpler » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:27 pm

Another reason I wouldn't do the deal is that while your league starts 7 rb/wr [which is a lot and depth is very very important] ..the addition of Murray/Henry would only net you 1 startable rb at a time because as everyone knows they are teammates, and certainly their offense cannot support 2 rb's ala the Falcons. If you were looking for some depth this wouldn't even help much.

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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:31 pm

im on the total opposite side of the fence from everyone else. if i could get murray, henry, AND a top wr for bell i would do that in an instant and think i made out like a bandit. if this dude will give you hopkins ontop of all that then thats the steal of the century.
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1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

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12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

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14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:34 pm

wait you only keep 4 dudes each season?? and its 10 team?? i would not trade bell actually lol
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

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Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: bell vs murray and henry

Postby hord » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:48 pm

Alge Crumpler wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:22 pm
hord wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:11 pm
Alge Crumpler wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:52 am I don't think Leveon can be traded unless you get a top 6 top 7 runningback back.

Murray and Henry? In dynasty? That's horse fodder.

If I'm trading LeVeon bell I need a grade a stud back. I don't really see that on his team.
You have 3 very good ppr wrs. Doug Baldwin top 10 last year, Landry, Diggs...

I just don't understand why you would want to downgrade so severely at runningback
[Trading Bell for the Titans rb's] to get some wr help from someone like Keenan Allen who I love but cant
stay healthy, or NUK, who I again love, but is coming off a poor season.

I don't understand at all. Again If Im trading Bell I want a top 6 7 rb back, plus more , or a top 3-5 wr.

Youre selling Bell way too low, and quite frankly I don't even know why you would do it.
People dream of having those 2rbs.
If your wr's were very poor id understand.
You had Baldwin the #9 wr in PPR last year.
Landry who I am down on a bit this year, a great great ppr wr
Diggs caught 80 balls before, expecting 90..

I just don't get it sorry.
I hear ya, and I don't disagree with you... I simply was looking at the options and if there may be a trade that helps me at wr and keeps me strong at rb. I love Baldwin, but after him, digs, hill, Watkins, landry.... looks good on paper but all huge question marks if u ask me... don't feel comfortable with them... landry seems to be on the outs with Miami, plus this assault stuff and cutlers love for parker... I don't think he will be the ppr monster we are used to.... Watkins learning a new play book on top of staying healthy and a shakey QB.... I dunno, just not confident in them
I understand completely. Here's my take on the WR'S. Doug Baldwin great. Russell Wilsons guys. Top 9 PPR WR last year 2016. No complaints here from either of us. Landry. I agree on Cutler to Parker, I also know about the assault, which I don't think anything will come from it. Despite all this I still think Landry is a LOCK for 75 receptions to 90 receptions. With your rb's that is not a bad wr2.
I see you didn't mention Stefon Diggs. He caught 84 receptions last year. I think he will get to 90 to 100 reception mark this season, in his 3rd season. PPR league? Sign me up. Tyreek Hill wr4? Yes please. I'm not a fan of Sammy Watkins, and even less in St Louis, where he's learning from Cooper Kupp when it should be the other way around. But as a wr5? SOLID. My take on it. gluck! :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Considering your rb's, and your wr1, I do not mind your other wr's whatsoever. And certainly wouldn't trade Bell to combat that. MY TAKE.
fair enough. I appreciate your feedback and reply's... here is why im concerned...
I look at a team like this, starters
carr
obj
ajg
cooper
Michael Thomas
cory coleman
crowel
cook
reed

although I have much better rb.... I would kill for any one of those top 4 WR haha
and in a ppr, that team makes me wonder if I have a chance with the wr that I have... even with the two best rb... assuming bell can play 16 games without getting hurt or arrested... or benched for his stupid attitude
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RB- [/b],Barkley, taylor, Etienne, jacobs, montgomery, hull, latavius, rodriguez jr
WR- diggs, kupp, A.J Brown, waddel, jamo
TE- Kelce
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