Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

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Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby Fantasy>>>Reality » Tue May 23, 2017 11:00 am

10 team superflex .5 ppr

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2- RB
3- WR
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I have what I feel are tough keeper decisions to make, wondering what people think.

Need to keep 2:

Devonta Freeman 12th round
Jordan Howard 12th round
Julio Jones 3rd round
Zeke Elliott 1st round

I have the 1.10 and the 2.1. Would love to keep Zeke (although not much value in the first round) and Devonta and risk Julio lasting to the 2.1 based on other people's 1st round keepers. Very risky but can't decide if the risk is worth the reward. 12th for Devonta is very tempting.

But in a vacuum I'm curious what people think.

Also I have Derrick Henry as a red shirt keeper already, no penalty for keeping him.

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Re: Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby moishetreats » Tue May 23, 2017 3:38 pm

Freeman is a no-brainer.

A couple of questions:

1) Any guess as to how many other owners will be keeping a player in the first round?

2) Any guess as to how many and which QBs will be kept?
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



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Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
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Re: Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby Fantasy>>>Reality » Tue May 23, 2017 7:21 pm

moishetreats wrote: Tue May 23, 2017 3:38 pm Freeman is a no-brainer.

A couple of questions:

1) Any guess as to how many other owners will be keeping a player in the first round?

2) Any guess as to how many and which QBs will be kept?
There are 4 being kept in the 1st round from what I can tell.

I believe that A Rodgers, Mariotta, Dak and Cam will be kept at various round designations.

Also I failed to mention that our league is going from 2 keepers in 2017 to 4 keepers in '18, not sure how that affects your stance.
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Re: Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby moishetreats » Wed May 24, 2017 7:54 am

Two more follow-up questions: May players be kept for multiple years and, if so, then what is that cost?

When do you need to decide?
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

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Re: Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby Fantasy>>>Reality » Wed May 24, 2017 12:01 pm

moishetreats wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 7:54 am Two more follow-up questions: May players be kept for multiple years and, if so, then what is that cost?

When do you need to decide?
Players can be kept forever and cost whatever round owner drafted them in.
We submit our keepers August 1 and draft the last Sunday in August.
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WR: Chase, CeeDee, Godwin, Mooney, Osborne, Eli Moore, Hardman, Ty Johnson
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Re: Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby Coogan Football » Wed May 24, 2017 11:55 pm

I'd be keeping Zeke and Julio.... getting Julio for a 3rd should get you arrested for theft lol

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Re: Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby moishetreats » Thu May 25, 2017 6:50 am

With all those answers, then Freeman remains a no-brainer to me. Kept at 12th for his career? Yes, please. Heck, even if he gets injured one pre-season, he's worth the stash for the year.

I would almost never keep a player in the first round. Good as he may be, you're hamstringing yourself. There will often be close enough value available.

That leaves Julio and Howard. If you believe in Howard, then that is the way to go. Howard + the guy that you'd pick in the 3rd round is far better than Julio + the guy that you'd pick in the 12th round. I'm not sold on Howard, but it might be worth the gamble. That being said, I'm also lower on Julio than most...

If trading is possible, then I'd put Zeke, Julio, and Howard on the block and see what you can get. Otherwise, for me, it comes down to Julio or Howard for the second spot behind Freeman, and it's only a question of whether or not you think that Howard can produce for the next, say, 3 years. If you think that he's a top-10 dynasty RB, like many do, then he becomes a no-brainer, as well.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --

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Re: Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby Fantasy>>>Reality » Sat May 27, 2017 8:12 am

Right on, thanks for your thoughts guys
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WR: Chase, CeeDee, Godwin, Mooney, Osborne, Eli Moore, Hardman, Ty Johnson
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Re: Devotna Freeman, Zeke, Julio and J Howard keeper decisions

Postby curtisn16 » Tue May 30, 2017 11:26 am

Howard & Freeman for me. Value for them in the 12th is outrageous!


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