Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
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Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
They have the same frame, the same speed. Watkins has a little better leaping ability but Cooper has much better agility and catch radius and from what I've heard runs better routes. So i'm a little confused why Cooper is not as high or higher than Sammy on people's boards.
Re: Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Let the White hype keep going so I can draft him lower than 1.2!
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Re: Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
Metrics aren't everything. Especially when they are pretty close athletically. At least Sammy has a 1,000 yard NFL receiving season under his belt while Cooper hasn't even gotten a NFL team to play on yet
Team 1
10 TM .5 PPR, 6 pt all TDs 1/2/3/1/2Flex
Newton, Rivers
LF, Chubb, Michel, Kerryon, Hyde, AJones, Royce F, Crowell
Adams, Cooper, Alshon, Watkins, ARob, Fuller, Doctson, Funchess, Gallup, Pettis, Valdez-Scant
Gronk, HHenry, Engram
1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09
Team 2
10 TM 1/2/3/1/1Flex 6pt all TDs .25 PPR RB, .5 PPR WR, 1 PPR TE
Wilson, Big Ben
Bell, JConner, MMack, Shady, CThompson, D'Onta Foreman, C Edmonds, B Scarborough
Julio, Nuk, Fuller, Cooks, ARob, Watkins, Cooper, SShepard, CDavis, DJ Chark
Kelce, Olsen, Andrews
1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09
Team 3
10 team, 0.5 PPR RBs WRs, 1 PPR TEs, Devy Superflex League
Carr, Goff, Falk
Barkley, Dalvin, Mixon, Michel, Ballage, MDavis, Dixon, Akers*
Hopkins, JuJu, Watkins, Fuller, Agholor, Moncrief, EQSB, Valdez-Scant, CRogers
Eifert, Ebron, JJames, JCook
1.02, 2.02, 2.06, 3.04
Played against David Johnson in HS, he was a stud back then too
10 TM .5 PPR, 6 pt all TDs 1/2/3/1/2Flex
Newton, Rivers
LF, Chubb, Michel, Kerryon, Hyde, AJones, Royce F, Crowell
Adams, Cooper, Alshon, Watkins, ARob, Fuller, Doctson, Funchess, Gallup, Pettis, Valdez-Scant
Gronk, HHenry, Engram
1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09
Team 2
10 TM 1/2/3/1/1Flex 6pt all TDs .25 PPR RB, .5 PPR WR, 1 PPR TE
Wilson, Big Ben
Bell, JConner, MMack, Shady, CThompson, D'Onta Foreman, C Edmonds, B Scarborough
Julio, Nuk, Fuller, Cooks, ARob, Watkins, Cooper, SShepard, CDavis, DJ Chark
Kelce, Olsen, Andrews
1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09
Team 3
10 team, 0.5 PPR RBs WRs, 1 PPR TEs, Devy Superflex League
Carr, Goff, Falk
Barkley, Dalvin, Mixon, Michel, Ballage, MDavis, Dixon, Akers*
Hopkins, JuJu, Watkins, Fuller, Agholor, Moncrief, EQSB, Valdez-Scant, CRogers
Eifert, Ebron, JJames, JCook
1.02, 2.02, 2.06, 3.04
Played against David Johnson in HS, he was a stud back then too
Re: Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
I think it's a fair enough question.HawkeyeState wrote:Metrics aren't everything. Especially when they are pretty close athletically. At least Sammy has a 1,000 yard NFL receiving season under his belt while Cooper hasn't even gotten a NFL team to play on yet
OP, correct me if I'm wrong but are you really asking 'why was Watkins a year ago considered a better prospect than Cooper now?'
I think they're the same. I love me some Cooper. Watkins may have a higher upside - Cooper is as polished as they come out of college.
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Re: Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
yes basically why was watkins more highly touted. to the other guy, its not just metrics that's why I threw in route running as well.Fezzik wrote:I think it's a fair enough question.HawkeyeState wrote:Metrics aren't everything. Especially when they are pretty close athletically. At least Sammy has a 1,000 yard NFL receiving season under his belt while Cooper hasn't even gotten a NFL team to play on yet
OP, correct me if I'm wrong but are you really asking 'why was Watkins a year ago considered a better prospect than Cooper now?'
I think they're the same. I love me some Cooper. Watkins may have a higher upside - Cooper is as polished as they come out of college.
you say they are the same but sammy has higher upside, so what makes you say that if athletically they are more or less the same?
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Re: Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
Daniel Jeremiah on a recent podcadt has last year's top 3 (Beckham, Watkins, Evans ahead of White, Cooper and Parker.). The best of the rest were Benjamin, Cooks and John Brown. Think he also had Strong in the top 10.
Re: Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
I think Watkins is more explosive on game film despite the similarity of the athletic measurables.Darkness wrote:yes basically why was watkins more highly touted. to the other guy, its not just metrics that's why I threw in route running as well.Fezzik wrote:I think it's a fair enough question.HawkeyeState wrote:Metrics aren't everything. Especially when they are pretty close athletically. At least Sammy has a 1,000 yard NFL receiving season under his belt while Cooper hasn't even gotten a NFL team to play on yet
OP, correct me if I'm wrong but are you really asking 'why was Watkins a year ago considered a better prospect than Cooper now?'
I think they're the same. I love me some Cooper. Watkins may have a higher upside - Cooper is as polished as they come out of college.
you say they are the same but sammy has higher upside, so what makes you say that if athletically they are more or less the same?
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Re: Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
Ah I misunderstood the OP then.
Team 1
10 TM .5 PPR, 6 pt all TDs 1/2/3/1/2Flex
Newton, Rivers
LF, Chubb, Michel, Kerryon, Hyde, AJones, Royce F, Crowell
Adams, Cooper, Alshon, Watkins, ARob, Fuller, Doctson, Funchess, Gallup, Pettis, Valdez-Scant
Gronk, HHenry, Engram
1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09
Team 2
10 TM 1/2/3/1/1Flex 6pt all TDs .25 PPR RB, .5 PPR WR, 1 PPR TE
Wilson, Big Ben
Bell, JConner, MMack, Shady, CThompson, D'Onta Foreman, C Edmonds, B Scarborough
Julio, Nuk, Fuller, Cooks, ARob, Watkins, Cooper, SShepard, CDavis, DJ Chark
Kelce, Olsen, Andrews
1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09
Team 3
10 team, 0.5 PPR RBs WRs, 1 PPR TEs, Devy Superflex League
Carr, Goff, Falk
Barkley, Dalvin, Mixon, Michel, Ballage, MDavis, Dixon, Akers*
Hopkins, JuJu, Watkins, Fuller, Agholor, Moncrief, EQSB, Valdez-Scant, CRogers
Eifert, Ebron, JJames, JCook
1.02, 2.02, 2.06, 3.04
Played against David Johnson in HS, he was a stud back then too
10 TM .5 PPR, 6 pt all TDs 1/2/3/1/2Flex
Newton, Rivers
LF, Chubb, Michel, Kerryon, Hyde, AJones, Royce F, Crowell
Adams, Cooper, Alshon, Watkins, ARob, Fuller, Doctson, Funchess, Gallup, Pettis, Valdez-Scant
Gronk, HHenry, Engram
1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09
Team 2
10 TM 1/2/3/1/1Flex 6pt all TDs .25 PPR RB, .5 PPR WR, 1 PPR TE
Wilson, Big Ben
Bell, JConner, MMack, Shady, CThompson, D'Onta Foreman, C Edmonds, B Scarborough
Julio, Nuk, Fuller, Cooks, ARob, Watkins, Cooper, SShepard, CDavis, DJ Chark
Kelce, Olsen, Andrews
1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09
Team 3
10 team, 0.5 PPR RBs WRs, 1 PPR TEs, Devy Superflex League
Carr, Goff, Falk
Barkley, Dalvin, Mixon, Michel, Ballage, MDavis, Dixon, Akers*
Hopkins, JuJu, Watkins, Fuller, Agholor, Moncrief, EQSB, Valdez-Scant, CRogers
Eifert, Ebron, JJames, JCook
1.02, 2.02, 2.06, 3.04
Played against David Johnson in HS, he was a stud back then too
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Re: Why Is Wakins considered better than Cooper?
Fezzik wrote:I think Watkins is more explosive on game film despite the similarity of the athletic measurables.
I hate the fact that Cooper gets "downgraded" because he looks so effortless doing everything. He's one of the smoothest athletes I've ever seen, he ran his 4.42 and it didn't even look like he was trying.
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