Russell Wilson or Colin Kaepernick

[DynastyZ33]

Remember it has only been ten games for the kid. He was successful but against stellar defenses he was just average. I think his running game with keep him as a QB1 but I'm just not too impressed by his passing game. It's one read and go, just not substainable in the NFL. You can have success throwing the ball to a guy when he gets open but eventually it will catch up to you. Reminds me of Vicks 10 game streak in 2010. I'm not writing him off, but just something that needs to be taken into consideration.

[49ersFaithful80]

Remember it has only been ten games for the kid. He was successful but against stellar defenses he was just average. I think his running game with keep him as a QB1 but I'm just not too impressed by his passing game. It's one read and go, just not substainable in the NFL. You can have success throwing the ball to a guy when he gets open but eventually it will catch up to you. Reminds me of Vicks 10 game streak in 2010. I'm not writing him off, but just something that needs to be taken into consideration.

He was average against good defenses? He made the Bear's defense look silly, I think he had a near perfect passer rating that night. Kaepernick is not a "one read and go" kind of guy. I'll put together a whole highlight tape of him going through multiple progressions and hitting his receiver if you'd like. If you don't include designed runs Kaepernick rarely takes off, he is a passer first for sure.

[ccj]

He was average against good defenses? He made the Bear's defense look silly, I think he had a near perfect passer rating that night. Kaepernick is not a "one read and go" kind of guy. I'll put together a whole highlight tape of him going through multiple progressions and hitting his receiver if you'd like. If you don't include designed runs Kaepernick rarely takes off, he is a passer first for sure.

I'd love to see that. Just because I like watching specific game film. Also if you have situations where the defense didn't blitz, but got pass pressure I'd be curious to see how that went. The 49ers o-line has been ridiculous.

[kmbryant09]

Remember it has only been ten games for the kid. He was successful but against stellar defenses he was just average. I think his running game with keep him as a QB1 but I'm just not too impressed by his passing game. It's one read and go, just not substainable in the NFL. You can have success throwing the ball to a guy when he gets open but eventually it will catch up to you. Reminds me of Vicks 10 game streak in 2010. I'm not writing him off, but just something that needs to be taken into consideration.

He's thrown the ball with more anticipation and better accuracy than Cam Newton.

[allpurple]

This off season the offense will be built to Kaepernick's strengths. It's going to get crazy in the hizzo in San Fran. Alex Smith game management offense was just shown the door.

This kid might be the best FF QB in the history of the game over the next 3-4 years. Notice I did say best FF QB.

Those buying him what is the price tag?

[DynastyZ33]

I haven't seen him consisently throw a ball before a receiver breaks his route that's my biggest beef. Against Seattle, Ravens, and Rams he didn't look so great and he "tore up" an old Bears D. Not worth arguing cause it isn't as if I'm not saying he is good or not lol I'm just saying he hasn't consistently thrown a ball before a receiver finished his route. Saying he was average in those games may have gone a little to far but he didnt play up to his percieved value. However he has benefited from one of the best Olines but its not like you can fault a guy for that.

[DynastyZ33]

Remember it has only been ten games for the kid. He was successful but against stellar defenses he was just average. I think his running game with keep him as a QB1 but I'm just not too impressed by his passing game. It's one read and go, just not substainable in the NFL. You can have success throwing the ball to a guy when he gets open but eventually it will catch up to you. Reminds me of Vicks 10 game streak in 2010. I'm not writing him off, but just something that needs to be taken into consideration.

He was average against good defenses? He made the Bear's defense look silly, I think he had a near perfect passer rating that night. Kaepernick is not a "one read and go" kind of guy. I'll put together a whole highlight tape of him going through multiple progressions and hitting his receiver if you'd like. If you don't include designed runs Kaepernick rarely takes off, he is a passer first for sure.

Super Bowl may have been an outlier but it seemed if his first look wasn't there, no play was going to be made.

[49ersFaithful80]

Remember it has only been ten games for the kid. He was successful but against stellar defenses he was just average. I think his running game with keep him as a QB1 but I'm just not too impressed by his passing game. It's one read and go, just not substainable in the NFL. You can have success throwing the ball to a guy when he gets open but eventually it will catch up to you. Reminds me of Vicks 10 game streak in 2010. I'm not writing him off, but just something that needs to be taken into consideration.

He's thrown the ball with more anticipation and better accuracy than Cam Newton.

Easily; Cam supporters won't admit it but Cam has struggled as a passer. Off target on 25% of his throws as a rookie (does not include throw aways) and 22.7% this season. Kaepernick was off target on a league best %13 of his throws this season.

Cam supporters; when you dispute this claim please mention something other than passing yards.

[DynastyZ33]

This off season the offense will be built to Kaepernick's strengths. It's going to get crazy in the hizzo in San Fran. Alex Smith game management offense was just shown the door.

This kid might be the best FF QB in the history of the game over the next 3-4 years. Notice I did say best FF QB.

Those buying him what is the price tag?

Qb1 with upside. Almost like buying Griffin

[kmbryant09]

Easily; Cam supporters won't admit it but Cam has struggled as a passer. Off target on 25% of his throws as a rookie (does not include throw aways) and 22.7% this season. Kaepernick was off target on a league best %13 of his throws this season.

Did not know these exact numbers - can you post the top 10 and maybe bottom 10?

[DynastyZ33]

My final thoughts are that I am just cautious when it comes to him as the NFL QB and not the fantasy QB. I would want to see another year before I believed he is an elite passer or is valued like one. It's easy to beat up on teams with awful defenses I just didnt think he was that great when a better D challenged him later in the year.

[kmbryant09]

DynastyZ33 -

Do you know what Kaepernick's fantasy production was in those 3 games you pointed out? 16, 14, and 26 (average of 18.7 ppg).

So you hand-picked 3 of his worst games, against strong defenses in order to illustrate why you aren't high on him - and he produced QB1 numbers in those games.

[lukeb]

Remember it has only been ten games for the kid. He was successful but against stellar defenses he was just average. I think his running game with keep him as a QB1 but I'm just not too impressed by his passing game. It's one read and go, just not substainable in the NFL. You can have success throwing the ball to a guy when he gets open but eventually it will catch up to you. Reminds me of Vicks 10 game streak in 2010. I'm not writing him off, but just something that needs to be taken into consideration.

He's thrown the ball with more anticipation and better accuracy than Cam Newton.

Easily; Cam supporters won't admit it but Cam has struggled as a passer. Off target on 25% of his throws as a rookie (does not include throw aways) and 22.7% this season. Kaepernick was off target on a league best %13 of his throws this season.

Cam supporters; when you dispute this claim please mention something other than passing yards.

Can you post the video of Kaepernick going through multiple progressions?

[49ersFaithful80]

Colin Kaepernick will begin training for the 2013 season within a week.
Kaepernick is reportedly "steaming" about San Francisco's Super Bowl loss to Baltimore and has already made plans with teammates for a quick training turnaround. Led by Kaepernick, 49ers players will head to Atlanta for workouts. If there were any lingering questions about Kaepernick's "leadership skills" or work ethic, this is a pretty strong answer. On Tuesday, Kaepernick described his breakout 2012 season to reporters "as not being good enough."

If Kaepernick makes significant strides this offseason he is going to be a fantasy juggernaut next season.

I'll work on the highlight tape of him going through multiple progressions

[allpurple]

Colin Kaepernick will begin training for the 2013 season within a week.
Kaepernick is reportedly "steaming" about San Francisco's Super Bowl loss to Baltimore and has already made plans with teammates for a quick training turnaround. Led by Kaepernick, 49ers players will head to Atlanta for workouts. If there were any lingering questions about Kaepernick's "leadership skills" or work ethic, this is a pretty strong answer. On Tuesday, Kaepernick described his breakout 2012 season to reporters "as not being good enough."

If Kaepernick makes significant strides this offseason he is going to be a fantasy juggernaut next season.

I'll work on the highlight tape of him going through multiple progressions

Waiver wire pick up of all waiver wire pick ups. Dam I am ready for next season and his 35-46 points per game.